Is 1980's The Shining a masterpiece? What is the nature of story anyway? Find out what @lordof1 and I thought in #RibbonOfMemes https://ribbonofmemes.org.uk/archive/2026/The_Shining__1980_.html #Podcast #Film #Movies
Ribbon of Memes: The Shining (1980)

@RogerBW @lordof1 I find both Kubrick and King... just don't write characters I give two fucks about.

Perhaps it's my limited exposure to both, but just... *shrug*

So, I'm not surprised you felt this way about the chars. in The Shining.

@RogerBW @lordof1 Also, my main interface to The Shining (having neither read it nor seen it) is the Treehouse of Horror episode from The Simpsons with it (and it sounds relatively well done) - AND, a map in BLOOD.
@RogerBW @lordof1 The Shining really feels like 'oh, that's where THAT bit is from!', movie-wise. I know this is where your 'was it influential?' comes in, but I think you've been coming to the conclusion (as I did a while back) that there's 'in-industry influential' (ie: when X does Y, a lot of people sit up and do Y) vs 'memeable' ('this turns up as a reference, in...')
@DarkestKale @RogerBW yes, that’s a good point. It’s a visually striking film and many of the individual images are memes or at least in the public consciousness much more than the actual film.
@lordof1 @DarkestKale Even relatively non-pop-cultured I had met the typewriter "all work and no play" well before I saw the film (it's been one of the xscreensaver collection since 1997).

@lordof1 @RogerBW I had to explain the whole 'Bugs Bunny eating carrots is a reference to Clark Gable' thing to a (young) coworker, and he was pretty dumbstruck that, you know, you are probably consuming X which is actually a remake/reboot/reference to Y (older thing).

I will forever point at the fact Xanadu is a remake of a sequel

@lordof1 @RogerBW I should, in future, just refine this (talk to the youngin's) to this video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9hCzjBc7Q4

Three Decades of Akira Slide Homages

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@DarkestKale @lordof1 And the great _The Maltese Falcon_ is the third filmed version of that story.
@RogerBW @lordof1 I sorta expected it to surge as a remake recently, since it's Public domain now, right?

Pepe le Pew being Pépé le Moko

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@Printdevil @DarkestKale @lordof1 George Raft, who invented the gangster coin flip in Scarface (1932), as a boss castigating an underling for doing it in Some Like It Hot (1959).
@Printdevil @RogerBW @lordof1 huh, hadn't heard of that one

le Pew was based on Charles Boyer version of Le Moko, but there had been two versions prior to it (that I know of)

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@Printdevil @DarkestKale @lordof1 Boyer probably better known now for the 1944 _Gaslight._
@Printdevil @DarkestKale @lordof1 What was the other? I can only see the 1937 original and _Casbah_, which was the later musical remake.

Oh I inverted it, it was the Hedy/Boyer then the Casbah. I always think Casbah is first because I like Peter Lorre

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