Remember when websites just loaded a block of text, instead of 120mb of javascript to "dynamically" load the exact same block of text?
@aria And for anything fancy, there's serverside PHP and stuff!

@IceWolf @aria

React has server-side rendering too. The reasons for monstrously bloated web pages go beyond what framework you are using

@gloriouscow @aria I mean, that's why I said "and stuff",

(also fuck React, but server-side-rendered React is probably significantly less shitty than normal React)

@IceWolf @aria

sorry i sort of just blacked out entirely after you said PHP

@gloriouscow Modern PHP is...Fine now. Its not my favorite, but the ecosystem is significantly less ahit then it was 15 years ago when I had to work with it full time

@IceWolf @aria