Transgender women athletes banned from women’s Olympic events by new IOC policy

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I’m of two minds about this:

First, let people compete in comparative tier skill events. We have different weight classes for boxing, why should other sports be any different?

Second, who fucking cares? Sports are literally just physical games which have become the victim of capitalism, and the Olympics added nationalism and implicit racial perspectives.

You will never see a Japanese woman winning the 100m sprint. Should we have another category for Asian sprinters? Maybe? But at some point you need to realise:

NONE OF THIS SHIT MATTERS.

Most of these athletes are doing drugs anyway lol.

It matters exactly for the reason why it’s banned. Sports is a pretext for hurting trans people. Sex assigned at birth should not matter at all. The bigots know this, but it’s acceptable as long as it’s dressed up as an intellectually honest debate about fairness in sports. Fairness in sports is a fool’s errand, like you point out. Having that discussion at all is letting the bigots win.

Sex assigned at birth should not matter at all.

It shouldn’t, but it does. As a matter of what is statistically relevant about the dichotomy between males and females.

I’m not having that debate.

You’re arguing in bad faith?

You are creating a strawman by claiming anyone who cares about gender in sports is a bigot who is trying to hurt trams people.

No, I said people are being duped into debating by bigots. This is about politics, not sports.

That’s a strawman.

You are saying that people do not reach that conclusion on their own.

Has Domi pointed out elsewhere in this thread. There is no evidence that transgender women have a physical advantage over cisgender women, provided they’ve been on HRT for 2+ years. here’s the meta-analysis they linked

So yeah, based off of:

It shouldn’t, but it does. As a matter of what is statistically relevant about the dichotomy between males and females.

You’re either a bigot trying to use sports to hurt trans people, or you’ve been duped by bigots. So, unless you’re made of straw Qevlarr isn’t using a straw man argument.

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Cool, I’ll check it out, but the claim is still a strawman.

I’m a vegan. When i see people eating beef, I don’t claim “either you like hurting cows, or you’ve been duped by people who hate animals”.

The claim itself is stupid and needlessly inflammatory.

I’m a vegan. When i see people eating beef, I don’t claim “either you like hurting cows, or you’ve been duped by people who hate animals”.

I’m not a vegan or even a vegetarian, but I wouldn’t argue with you if you made that claim, because the only reason we as a society eat as much meat as we do, is because it’s normalised at every level for economic reasons.

If I can manage that, you can manage to not argue with trans people trying to deal with the active and ongoing exclusion they face.

Here’s the issue though, I do not agree with the claim that people who eat beef enjoy hurting cows, or duped by those who hate them.

The claim itself is a strawman, the fact that you are willing to accept it means your epistemology is bad.