quantumloverTransgender women athletes banned from women’s Olympic events by new IOC policy
ZozanoI’m of two minds about this:
First, let people compete in comparative tier skill events. We have different weight classes for boxing, why should other sports be any different?
Second, who fucking cares? Sports are literally just physical games which have become the victim of capitalism, and the Olympics added nationalism and implicit racial perspectives.
You will never see a Japanese woman winning the 100m sprint. Should we have another category for Asian sprinters? Maybe? But at some point you need to realise:
NONE OF THIS SHIT MATTERS.
Most of these athletes are doing drugs anyway lol.
qevlarrIt matters exactly for the reason why it’s banned. Sports is a pretext for hurting trans people. Sex assigned at birth should not matter at all. The bigots know this, but it’s acceptable as long as it’s dressed up as an intellectually honest debate about fairness in sports. Fairness in sports is a fool’s errand, like you point out. Having that discussion at all is letting the bigots win.
Sex assigned at birth should not matter at all.
It shouldn’t, but it does. As a matter of what is statistically relevant about the dichotomy between males and females.
You’re arguing in bad faith?
You are creating a strawman by claiming anyone who cares about gender in sports is a bigot who is trying to hurt trams people.
No, I said people are being duped into debating by bigots. This is about politics, not sports.
That’s a strawman.
You are saying that people do not reach that conclusion on their own.
OneWomanCreamTeamHas Domi pointed out elsewhere in this thread. There is no evidence that transgender women have a physical advantage over cisgender women, provided they’ve been on HRT for 2+ years. here’s the meta-analysis they linked
So yeah, based off of:
It shouldn’t, but it does. As a matter of what is statistically relevant about the dichotomy between males and females.
You’re either a bigot trying to use sports to hurt trans people, or you’ve been duped by bigots. So, unless you’re made of straw Qevlarr isn’t using a straw man argument.
This systematic review aligns with previous ones1 4 in highlighting critical research limitations. This includes the typically short study durations (<3 years) and a lack of data on elite athletes.
So we aren’t talking about Olympic tier athletes.
Also, the authors themselves acknowledge the evidence quality sits between very low and low
AdaFor what it’s worth, I don’t give a shit about “fairness” in sports.
Then why the fuck are you even in this discussion, arguing with people trying to defend a highly marginalised section of the community?
If you “don’t care”, then dropping it so as to not be part of the active exclusion of trans people would be the appropriate move.
Then why the fuck are you even in this discussion?
Because I believe what I’m saying is important?
Whatever point you think I’m making, I’m not. I absolutely believe trans athletes should be capable of competing in whatever gender sports category they want, provided they are within range of their fellow athletes.