RE: https://toot.cat/@zkat/116302181567094649

Just gonna boost this up to the TL cause I think there's a conversation to be had about how much genAI centers around people desperately wanting the ability to be deceitful, and their need to defend it lest they lose their powers of deception.

@zkat I see the "it's unenforceable" excuse come up so often, and I keep thinking something along the liens of "...so what?" Hell, is the *GPL* enforceable in any but a small number of high-profile cases?

OSS is built on unenforcable ideals that we still do our best to hold to, why is LLM use specially exempted as being too inevitable to even bother trying to oppose?

@xgranade it just gives away the game that they're just chomping at the bit to bypass anything the community/project might ask you not to do just because you don't feel like it. It's like they're commenting saying "I don't care what you put in this issue, I'm gonna do what I want and you can't stop me" lol way to go being a community member, dick
@zkat @xgranade pretty much. it just oozes out privilege. these tend to also be the kind of people that then ignore every single ethical, social, political or environmental argument against genai. they focus on the (also very real, obviously) quality issues and ignore the way more destructive ones
@zkat @xgranade I have an idea. If somebody tries to use the "unenforceable" argument, ask them if they would break the rules. If they say yes, they've outed themselves and that's an easy ban. If they say no, push them to see if they can identify the type of person they think would break the rules. Push back the ideological front lines and direct their attention to the bad actors they should be working against.