Lee DunaMar 27

iPhone New iOS Age Verification Sparks Outrage as Users Say 'I Will Switch to Android'

https://lemmy.nz/post/35845801

iPhone New iOS Age Verification Sparks Outrage as Users Say 'I Will Switch to Android' - Lemmy NZ

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Show threadstickyprimer
Folks, this is coming from your government. The phone makers want nothing to do with it and are actively fighting it in court as best they can. Switching between phone makers will not help, and is not the right place to put your energy. Address your concerns to your governments.
Mar 27 at 4:30pmWeb
Show threadSeefra 1Mar 27

The phone makers want nothing to do with it and are actively fighting it in court as best they can.

Doubt. This way they have excuses to farm user data.

Show threadstickyprimerMar 27

It was this coalition of big tech companies that blocked Texas SB2420 from going into effect on Jan 1 of this year.

Believe me my dude if they wanted your birthdate they would have gotten it before. Or more likely they already have it without this.

CCIA Asks Court  to Continue Blocking Texas’ Unconstitutional App Store Law - CCIA

Washington - The Computer & Communications Industry Association filed its opposition to Texas’ motion to allow SB2420, the App Store Accountability Act,

CCIA
Show threadJyekMar 27
The phone makers want your data just as much as the government does. Data is money and power.
Show threadgreen_goglinMar 27
This is literally a vertical that they actively monetize.
Show threadboonhetMar 27
They have other ways of determining your age without requiring an extremely unpopular ID check.
Show threadSaraToninMar 27
Some are accepting having a credit card in Wallet as proof of age, as well as simply having an old enough Apple account
Show threadboonhetMar 27
My Apple account is only like a decade old but if YouTube asks me for age verification I’m gonna be writing them a sternly worded letter because my account is old enough to buy alcohol in my country
Show threadReiterate9120Mar 28
Before wasting your time with a letter that will go straight into the rubbish, spend a little time seeing if anyone has created a work around, Hopefully Revanced or YTLitePlus can patch the age verification out.
Show threadRavelMar 27
I don’t think there is any way to actually functionally verify age without either an ID check, or a check that ultimately traces back to an ID check from some entity further up the chain. Any successful age check will either dox your identity to the checker, or it can be trivially bypassed.
Show threadboonhetMar 27

You’re forgetting that they don’t NEED to know precise age unless they’re doing it for a government mandated age check.

For marketing purposes, which is what they REALLY want your data for, they have a profile of you that’s accurate enough even if your age is off by 5 years.

Show threadRavelMar 27
The capitalist part that wants money can build an accurate enough profile with just statistical correlations, but the fascist aspect isn’t doing it “for the children” it’s doing it to completely dismantle all digital privacy, so they can know what everyone is saying and doing online.
Show threadboonhetMar 27

But the fascist aspect isn’t doing it “for the children” or even just money, it’s doing it to completely dismantle all digital privacy, so they can know what everyone is saying and doing online at all times.

Yes, that’s the government mandated age check requirements and anti-encryption legislation. Of course many of the people lobbying for these things are rich capitalists, but not exclusively - there are also religious nutcases and overall just people who enjoy having control over others. As far as megacorporations are concerned, they really just want all of your money and if they make you jump through hoops (age verification), you’re actually less likely to give them your money.

Show threadRavelMar 27

As far as megacorporations are concerned, they really just want all of your money

Maybe awhile back, but at this point they are kind of melding with the fascists. Social media, mainstream news, financial architecture, and communication networks controlled by corporations are definitely being backed by increasingly fascist organizations which definitely value total control over everything else.

Show threadboonhetMar 27
I mean that’s true, yes. But even then they’re only in bed with fascists because right now that’s profitable. A while ago they were funding politicians who were just neoliberals, not fascists. The kind that just leave them alone and let them profit off everyone in peace. I was specifically referring to the age checks though, not their data collection practices overall. An ID check is annoying to the user and thus most corporations would rather skip that unless they actually need it so they know who to blame if you rack up debt or something. Just knowing everything about you without you ever getting prompted to do anything is way better for them.
Show threadRavelMar 27

with fascists because right now that’s profitable

Or because there is dirt on executives. I have recently began to believe a lot of this bullshit is being run with blackmail as fuel.

Show threadbluetoofsMar 27
Taking it up with our governments is fruitless as well. The days of governments actually giving a shit about what we want are over. Of you’re not flush with cash, your voice can and will be overridden at the drop of a hat.