Nick Young 4d ago

There’s a limited supply of oil. It’s very expensive and wars are fought for it.

There is endless sunlight. It’s free and no wars are fought for it.

Let’s choose solar.

Show threadRaglan Niall  

@nickofnz already did and I highly recommend it.

Electricity bill $0
Home heating bill $0 (electric)
Water heating bill $0 (electric)
Car fuel bill $0 (electric)

5* would do it again.

Mar 27 at 6:51amWeb
Show threaddandandin4d ago
@Niall @nickofnz can you think of the billionaires? How they could continue to hoard wealth destroying the environment if everyone did like you??? Irresponsible
Show threadLinda Rose Smit4d ago
@dandandin @Niall @nickofnz its them that are selling the cars.
Show threadLinda Rose Smit4d ago
@Niall @nickofnz i would be interested to know how you achieved this. As in my experience you need solar panels, (or wind mills), pumps and batteries. Which are rarely free nor free of impact. We should be able to go green with telling the real story.
Show threadRaglan Niall  4d ago
@lindarosesmit @nickofnz there's no such thing as free or free from impact except death. Everything is a trade-off unless you wish to cease to exist.
I put a lot of money and time in to the core of my setup 10 years ago, which is solar, batteries and inverter. Since then I have tweaked and improved things, most notably my batteries. Initially I was using retired ex-telecom lead-acid batteries. Now I am using a reconfigured battery from my Nissan leaf (after I upgraded the car's battery) and an ex forklift battery which I rescued from the scrap yard.
Show threadZ̈oé4d ago
@Niall @lindarosesmit @nickofnz end-of-life battery reuse is a very cool project 👍 I had the same idea but I’m glad someone is actually doing it. Good luck!
Show threadLinda Rose Smit3d ago
@Niall @nickofnz death has impact.
Show threadRaglan Niall  3d ago
@lindarosesmit true. I narrowed my consideration of impacts to material things. Sorry if that hurt you. @nickofnz
Show threadLinda Rose Smit3d ago
@Niall @nickofnz we do not disappear when dead. So in all matters death has impact. That is why they are trying to find news ways of getting rid if the bodies.
The gist of my comment being: it’s not that simple.
We have painted ourselves in a corner.
Show threadRaglan Niall  3d ago
@lindarosesmit @nickofnz you enjoy your analysis-paralysis and I'll enjoy my solar, cheers :)
Show threadLinda Rose Smit3d ago
@Niall @nickofnz i am enjoying my re-insulated house, double glazing, solarpanels, induction cooking and heat pump. And know the costs. Now looking into batteries. Doubtfull that it will be worthwhile impactwise and financially.
But by all means enjoy your zero-sum game. And don’t forget to pat yourself on the back.
Show threadLinda Rose Smit3d ago
@Niall @nickofnz which is laudable. But to say 0, 0, 0 is painting a too rosy picture of this long and arduous road to get that far.
Show threadRaglan Niall  3d ago

@lindarosesmit @nickofnz that's the direct cost of my use which is a fair comparison to the direct cost of using other sources.

Purchasing/connecting to any system has costs associated with it and that's not what I'm talking about.

Operating/fuelling these systems has a 'per unit used' cost, even firewood cut by hand from your own land , in one or more of dollars, time, pollution. In my situation the 'per unit cost' is almost precisely $0.