For folks looking for their next role, we're hiring a manager for the team I'm attached to (Senior Manager, Platform Engineering - Secure Supply Chain). It's a big problem space with a large impact on all of Twilio engineering. Role is remote, but based in US or Canada.

https://jobs.twilio.com/careers/job/1099552427321?domain=twilio.com&hl=en

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Senior Manager, Platform Engineering - Secure Supply Chain | Twilio

We are always looking for people who will bring something new to the table! Required: 8+ years of experience in software engineering, platform engineering, or infrastructure roles, with at least 4+ years in engineering management leading teams of 8-12 engineers Proven track record leading secure supply chain, DevOps, CI/CD, or developer platform initiatives at scale in complex, multi-product organizations Deep technical knowledge of source control systems (GitHub), build systems (Buildkite, GitHub Actions, Harness), and artifact management platforms (Artifactory, Nexus, container registries) Strong understanding of secure supply chain practices in cloud environments (AWS, GCP, Azure) including cloud-native CI/CD, container security, infrastructure-as-code, and cloud service integrations Demonstrated experience partnering with Security and Compliance teams to implement security controls, vulnerability management, and compliance requirements without compromising developer velocity Strong people leadership skills including hiring, performance management, coaching, and developing high-performing engineering teams Excellent stakeholder management and communication skills with ability to influence and align cross-functional partners at all levels of the organization Strategic thinking with ability to balance short-term execution against long-term vision and organizational impact Experience managing budgets, vendor relationships, and making build-vs-buy decisions for platform capabilities Experience with software supply chain security frameworks (SLSA, SBOM, vulnerability scanning, dependency management) Experience leading teams through significant technical migrations or platform modernization efforts

@mckern not hiring in CA or NY smells a lot like some labor law avoidance silliness
@rtyler it's less labor laws and more pay bands; the budget has a cap that doesn't generally fit CoL for NY or CA.
@mckern @rtyler FWIW, more broadly I've heard the same reasoning from some large tech companies in the past year. Not hiring in NYC and other high-CoL areas, or even in the U.S. due to high costs.
@AlesandroOrtiz @rtyler I mean, I'm not caping for capitalism and labor law flouting here. If that's a trick business has figured out to avoid those states, that sucks. But I was involved in getting this backfill open and it was a pretty frank conversation about the budget.
@AlesandroOrtiz @rtyler I suspect that if our pay bands were more granular about differentiating between NYC and NYS, that's the language we'd see. But as a New Yorker in upstate, I'm not gonna tell them "no please bump me to a tier 2/3 region" 🫥

@mckern @rtyler I believe your reasoning for this specific case. :)

In other cases I've seen, it's probably a bit of both (costs + reg avoidance). And overhead of regulations often factor into labor costs too.

Pointed at the tech industry: It's funny that I moved to NYC for work 16+ years ago, yet have been denied consideration for multiple jobs over the past couple of years due to my location and high labor costs here. 🙃

@AlesandroOrtiz @rtyler we're more trouble than we're worth now

@mckern @AlesandroOrtiz I have also been involved in some of those same types of budget discussions.

The point that I keep coming back to with other managers is that if you are seeking to geographically arbitrage, you're going to take longer to hire, and _usually_ hire less qualified candidates.

The best folks in lower CoL are making wages closer to middle tier people in higher CoL areas because that's what it takes.

Lots of HR teams still try to play games that stopped working in 2021.

@rtyler @AlesandroOrtiz no argument there. But I'm an IC with modest influence and no hiring authority. Not the hill I wanna die on with the business in 2026.