RE: https://alpaca.gold/@seldo/116286295716964968

“Tedious bastards” aka people who actually care about things like privacy and human rights and maybe even want to create alternatives to your toxic brand of technology.

Have you tried fucking off again? Maybe it’ll stick this time.

@aral given time and resources, every laurie voss has a potential to grow into a mark zuckerberg.

these guys tend to see others – us – as a resource, then ignore or actively oppose multiple, multiple polite attempts at reasoning with them… until suddenly and out of the blue of course «there really are a bunch of tedious bastards».

he’s not the last.

@tivasyk @aral TBH I'm also concerned about those who are likely *quietly* scraping Fedi and feeding data to who knows what (not merely LLMs but various authorities, govts etc - maybe a combination of both) - which I suspect is easy enough to do by exploiting the very openness of ActivityPub that makes our clients mostly work in the first place - as much the fools who brag about their crime as well as commit it (and are thus easily caught)
@vfrmedia except it’s not a crime! but communities, real ones can’t survive on simple legal/illegal logic, ethic is part of the game somehow, and part of it seems unencodable as law because then it’s suddenly an authoritarian society :-| not a simple topic to untangle.

@tivasyk even meatspace law is be a grey area - for instance there is no max speed limit on a bicycle in Britain and they have far less regulation than cars, but cyclists are expected not to ride at 30 km/h in the busy shared area and scatter pedestrians (or even collide with them).

Most have the ethics not to behave like that, but some do not (and might even take to cycling because they feel they can get away with more than in a car, rather than it being a lower impact form of transport).

Such attitudes are also widespread on so-called tech "community"...

@vfrmedia @tivasyk
The grey area extends on past "Have you got the money to go to court?", prosecutors deciding "It is not in the public interest", Microsoft's "It's not a crime unless a court of law has ruled on that specific case, but then it is not really decided until every avenue of appeal has been tested." and even Trump's "It's my Supreme Court, my friends gave it to me." and "We are sanctioning ICC judges."