How about if you let qualified educators decide what is fundamental, Mr Lawyer/Politician Shapiro?

https://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2026/03/26/i-hate-it-when-republicans-do-this-i-might-hate-it-more-when-democrats-do-it/

@pzmyers

I would like to know who is pushing "require cursive handwriting" legislation in multiple US states at the same time.

Since this seems coordinated, like the blanket cell-phone ban bills a couple of years ago.

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Michael Busch (@[email protected])

The Minnesota state legislature is arguing about when students learn cursive in school. I could ask them "which cursive?"; since while I can read current English, French, and Spanish cursives all the others confound me. But I will instead point out there are more important things for them to do.

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@michael_w_busch @pzmyers

Cursive is big at Steiner schools. I find the cell phone bans much more sinister. I don't really care about cursive but feeling confident writing by hand is a useful skill. It should never be a hurdle that prevents a kid from moving forward.

I think this just rings "back to basics" feel good bells for people over 45. Is Josh gonna buy some nice notebooks and pens for the schools or will I need to pay for those (I already do, I teach calligraphy as an extra)

@futurebird @pzmyers

The cell phone bans that made no allowances for the kids with diabetes or hearing aids or any of the other reasons they may need their phone were particularly appalling.

@futurebird @michael_w_busch @pzmyers

As someone who was taught cursive starting in 2nd grade and who had no problems doing it, I think I'm somewhat qualified to say that I see it completely unnecessary as a mandatory subject.

Writing by hand, yes, mandatory; cursive as an option, yes; cursive as mandatory, no.

...and even though I was perfectly good at it, it's not what I use when I want to write quickly and legibly.

(My understanding -- check with an actual primary-school educator -- is that it was originally developed for writing with a quill-pen, because they are prone to splotching when lifted from the page. With modern writing implements, other issues take precedence.)

@woozle @futurebird @michael_w_busch @pzmyers

I'm sure I read hand writing, not necessarily cursive, helps with other types of brain development. I still find handwriting into my phone better than keyboarding because no auto correct and I can more easily figure out what I meant so less disruption in flow of thought.

@Cass_m

I did like that system that the Palm used to use, which was cursive-ish...

@futurebird @michael_w_busch @pzmyers

@woozle the pen is why I have a Samsung Ultra

Palmer-ish cursive is about the worst version of handwriting to standardize on, yesno? Especially for left handed people?

I like teaching kids to interact with the material world, not just screens and storebought things. So I’d try to teach everyone print you can do with draw strokes. And the inheritance of calligraphy, including graffiti, should be a joy and endeavor in art classes. Help anyone who wants to develop a fast legible-to-them script. Palmer last!

@michael_w_busch @pzmyers