Mastodawn

RE: https://toot.cafe/@soapdog/116290204253136215

“So it failed age verification and locked me out of many features. Bear in mind, I am 45 years old. I have an Apple account for 25 years, the age of my personal account alone should already verify my age.

Credit cards are not documents. Many people don’t have them. Apple don’t provide any other way to verify your age because they are a stupid American company with American values in which you’re just as human as your credit score.

Age verification is a scam, but checking it with a credit card is even worse.”

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GrapheneOS 1d ago

@aral The laws being proposed and passed requiring providing age brackets to apps and websites are a horrific invasion of privacy for minors putting their safety at risk. It not only enables targeting minors in harmful ways particularly for the lowest age brackets but also leaks their birth date to apps and websites on the day they move into the next age bracket. One of the biggest lobbyists for these OS level age verification laws is Meta which just lost a court case for exploiting minors.

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GrapheneOS 1d ago

@aral These laws dictating the information can only be used for gating access based on age is beyond ridiculous. There's no doubt they're aware it's going to be heavily used beyond the permitted use. It cannot be excused as naivety. These same governments often treat birth dates as highly sensitive information usable as a core part of authenticating people's identity. Meanwhile, they're passing laws forcing operating systems and browsers to leak the birth dates of minors to apps and websites.

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Uriel Fanelli 1d ago

@GrapheneOS @aral census is a specific function of the government. We can criticise govt because there is no state API to certify age. But, the fact census is a govt function, since 2500 years on, is out of discussion.

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Joe | 🇵🇸 | 🧑‍💻1d ago

@uriel It depends on:

1. Which gov are we talking about? A gov that always practices justice and respects the constitution or a gov that's unjust and does not respect the constitution?

The govs we've seen are untrustable. So the answer is obvious: No justice, no constitution respect.

2. (Assuming the answer to the first question is "justice and constitution respect") Can the gov keep people's private data safe forever from malefactor?

The answer is always: No

Therefore, you're wrong

Period

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Uriel Fanelli

@joe9nf

Which gov are we talking about? A gov that always practices justice and respects the constitution or a gov that's unjust and does not respect the constitution?

Is not up to you to determine wether the govt respects the constitution, there is a dedicated court doing this.

The govs we've seen are untrustable. So the answer is obvious: No justice, no constitution respect.

this is no fact, is just your opinion.

(Assuming the answer to the first question is "justice and constitution respect") Can the gov keep people's private data safe forever from malefactor?

My government has tons of data of me. None of them have leak so far.

Therefore, you're wrong

Show your arguments, the pathetic whining I read is not an argument. Is just a little mama prince screaming "nothing is good enough for me".

Period.

Your sister.