lumpenproletariatkings dont run
CultuurMarxistHow do you run centralised production without some form of central oversight? How do you decide which commune gets the power plant or local food distribution hub.
rockerface🇺🇦Why should power and food distribution be restricted to only one commune in the first place?
My point is you will end up in situations where one town or city might a nuclear reactor which powers the whole region. So then you end up with inbalances of power between locally controlled production.
explodicleSorry if this is a tangent, but do we really need nuclear? Solar can be extremely decentralized.
We need some baseload electricity production to support renewables doesn’t have to be nuclear, could be storing energy by filling a dammed lake or something along those lines.
A nuclear power plant would need consumers as much as it needs engineers. Any place that builds it would be dependent on other communes to balance the load.
Why would it need consumers? It can function fine without unless you are describing a capitalist economy. No need to balance the load either one nuclear power plant can sustain the region where all the power plant workers live with electricity.
Exactly, and to balance the load you need someone consuming the generated power. Which in case of a nuclear plant needs a lot of people, otherwise you’ve just wasted a ton of resources, time and space on a Stalker cosplay set
No need to balance the load
I don’t think you know anything about how electricity and power grids work. Unless we invent superbatteries that are several orders of magnitude more efficient than current ones, you need to balance the load if you want to actually use the power plant that you built.
Oh yea. Things will get very HOT, very QUICK if you don’t balance that load, especially with how much output nuclear has. Even if you’re just trying to shed the excess and waste it, you have to be able to discharge it fast enough.
And it’s just more mutually beneficial to share that power with others.
Maybe energy is not a good representation of the point i’m trying to make.
Take steel production for instance, in my country there is 1 steel mill that supplies the whole country and partially surrounding countries. This gives the group controlling that factory power, these central power structures will exist even in anarchist societies and whenever i bring this up it just gets handwaved away like it will be fine mutual interest, everyone will be nice end of story.
But i think there will still be friction and collectives not getting along even in a classless society, especially right at the advent coming out of capitalism.
Well if your town has a steel mill and nothing else, why would you be an asshole and withhold your products from everyone else if you need to get other stuff elsewhere? Your scenario is only realistic if one commune somehow perfectly lucks out into eternal self-sufficiency.