People deserve to vote for someone they actually support, not the least terrible option.

Stop blaming the voters.

Sure, people deserve better options. But the fucking point is that WHEN those options do NOT exist, voting for the WORSE option is fucking STUPID and supports fascism.
When people keep voting for the LESS BAD option when those better options do NOT exist, better options WON’T appear as voting LESS BAD removes the INCENTIVE for it. Therefore voting for the LESS BAD option ensures the options will always remain FASCISM and something slightly LESS BAD - no better options. If one wants better options, keep voting LESS BAD is fucking STUPID.
Hope you feel proud of your principles when they disappear you into the camps too.
the democrats or the republicans?
I don’t know, fucking genius, you tell me who fucking set ICE out murdering US citizens and throwing them into fucking camps? Are you a fucking fascist and trying to play around here and confuse people, or are you willfully this fucking goddamn fucking stupid? Either way, fascists certainly adore your contribution to the conversation.

I don’t know, fucking genius, you tell me

Are you a fucking fascist and trying to play around here and confuse people, or are you willfully this fucking goddamn fucking stupid? Either way, fascists certainly adore your contribution to the conversation.

lol, good on yer trying to throw it back like that, but you have to put a unique spin on it or something. I lost my temper at you, but I stand by the spirit of it, even though I wish I’d been able to keep my temper better.

"you have to put a unique spin on it"

dont fucking tell me what to do

ICE, started in 2003… remember when the Democrat party was in power, both times, all three terms since then, when they got rid of ICE and… ohhhh wait.

Solution space lays elsewhere.

Ignorance must be fucking bliss.

If ignorance is bliss, give me agony.

Some seem overly identified with theirs, and it does not look like they’re in bliss by it. Maybe if we can help them stop identifying in such an unhealthy way… perhaps if we tell them:

The ignorance that dies is not you.

Your logic only applies to local/state elections. It does not apply to presidential elections.

If you vote 3rd party in a presidential election, you’re a fool acknowleging you’re incapable of doing basic math and fine with the worst case scenario.

Explain how does it not work? People not voting for the shitty D candidate, causing them to lose to R doesn’t create an incentive for D to change course? Do I need to presrnt to you the last two years of intense D soul searching after Kamala lost?

fine with the worst case scenario.

Obvioisly that’s part of the calculus. Most who question the lesser evil approach understand this. However you might not understand that no matter how hard you call people fools, that doesn’t change the picture for people who’ve given up on voting for Turd Sandwich. Might even be achieving the opposite. A lot of people are done with the Turd Sandwich status quo and are either staying home or voting Giant Douche. Sounds like you have to give them something better to vote for if you don’t want more Giant Douche.

People not voting for the shitty D candidate, causing them to lose to R

Congrats, you just elected fascists.

I guess you’ll have to do something about it then.
I am. I’m trying to teach people how not to support fascists.

When the general election hits, you will have two options (yea three or more). You can vote for the Republican, fascist candidate. Or you can vote for the Democratic candidate.

Anything other than - at that point - voting for the Dem is throwing your support behind fascists.

That is simple fact.

And that includes third parties.

Anything you want to try and do to change the system - because it fucking needs it - should be done before/outside of that process.

It’s really not fucking complicated.

I guess people would have to elect at least one more fascist gov’t then. Cause people don’t give a shit what the process is and won’t vote for turd sandwich in sufficient numbers no matter how much you insist they do. And I’m not doing that. I’m merely trying to present the view of the person who doesn’t buy this shit, didn’t vote Kamala and won’t vote Newsom no matter how hard you scold them.
And that’s part of the reason we have fascists in charge.
Can you spoil your ballot in protest?