it’s very easy to dunk on liquid glass for looking like shit and being inaccessible trash but now that I’ve been forced onto a new version of iOS and have first-hand experience with it, I feel it’s important to tell the truth:

it works like absolute shit too. who the fuck’s idea was it to make notifications work like this? who fucking sat there and decided what I wanted from the keyboard was for someone to fuck with its layout for no apparent reason?

not since the 90s have I interacted with a system UI whose animations were apparently designed to be as distracting as possible. I just looked at a masto notification and wondered why it had a weird tattoo (it was the UI of my active app showing through in bright blue, and I’ve got liquid glass on the “tinted” setting)

all my icons are fucking ugly now but the updated ones are worse. the calendar widget is a weird blob now. everything on my widget page is a weird blob.

I’d ask who the fuck did this but we know who, and that entire team left Apple for Facebook right after the public backlash against liquid glass started

what in the fuck did they do to the calendar, in general

who in the fuck is this for

holy fucking shit they made the CarPlay UI’s buttons smaller and made the daytime theme a set of colors that maximizes reflections and glare

I’d ask who decided this but “our users want smaller controls, more buttons, somehow also more whitespace, and less visibility for their driving interface” is a thoroughly LLM-brained decision

so who prompted ChatGPT and followed its instructions? I just want to talk (I’m going to run you over with my fucking car)

here I am severely disliking Apple’s UI for being materially the worst modern UI I’ve ever personally used (none of my computers run windows 11 and none of them ever will) and also disliking the macbook neo for being, by the numbers, a bad deal for everyone except Apple

maybe we can stop rewarding this company that’s doing a shit job of everything but increasing their share price with lipservice and thonkpieces about how the neo is great actually?

(I submitted the previous post too early because of liquid glass jank!)

maybe when we see a company like Apple capitulate to fascists in front of our own eyes and fuck up on security (the exploit kit that pushed me onto liquid glass) we shouldn’t reward any of that?

and like, you can punish Apple without leaving their ecosystem if you must stay. I get it. buy a used device. they’ll fucking hate if you buy a used macbook and it’s better and cheaper than the neo.

nah I must just be a hater

all I see when I look at this dreadful fucking UI is the big boy trophy they gave that fucker when they capitulated

and you want me to clap when they do things that increase their share price

we’re on iOS 26.4 but the UI still renders a corrupted layout sometimes when I unlock my phone and after animations play and notifications cause UI elements to reorder for a split second (see the above accidental post)???? has anyone checked to see if any of the “of course it sucks, new iOS versions are like that” guys have posted a correction? no? they’re all posting thonkpieces about how the neo is a computing revolution along the lines of the Commodore 64 but also it’s not for me????? weird

also I still cannot get over how the new CarPlay UI made everything I use CarPlay for harder

the “go home” button is gone because now I guess I want to scroll a dreadful list of nearby food or gas or whatever?

app switching is fucking tiny for no reason

if I want to “end route” in maps, a thing I do constantly because maps can’t ever tell when I arrive (self-driving any day now I’m sure) I now have to swipe up on my arrival time (what) and tap a tiny end route button

sometimes the iMessage send button just glows instead of sending the message and I have to tap it again??

like I get it probably wants me to open the context menu I never use but like, I’ve tapped that button a lot and it never had this bug before and now it just keeps happening

oh dear fuck I opened the context menu and it can’t be closed by tapping the background, you have to find the tiny little close button and tap that or else you’re trapped

believe it or not Apple I don’t use these

I figured out the reason for this and it’s fucking worse than the context menu thing

they made the tap target for the send button tiny, roughly the size of how big the icon is (don’t ever do this on mobile, your touch targets need to be bigger than their visual representation)

if you miss the tap target due to muscle memory it pulses the entire text bar and if you do it next to the button, it makes the button glow bright white

it does this instead of tapping the damn button

what’s worse is if it’s a multi-line text: the button shifts position and instead of making the tap target the height of the text box as anyone with mobile UI experience would, your finger now has to track down where the button went

which it won’t because you aren’t looking for the button with your eyes. why would you?

they made the phone app slow and janky somehow???? like I’ve never had my phone jank before just because somebody called
the replies to this thread are this meme but with linux users and “just use linux”

“zzt how dare you. I bet you’re not even compiling a kernel right now”

jokes on you I’ve been compiling BSD since 1998. the same kernel, on a vax. it’s not done compiling yet

wait the weird borders on all the home screen icons are animated and the animation is tied into my gyro? why? it doesn’t look good. it doesn’t look like anything! the point of tying an animation into the gyro is to add depth or to do fake lighting (like the wallet app does with cards) but this isn’t either one of those??? it doesn’t simulate a realistic light source. it’s just extremely ugly.

and as with the other liquid glass animations it isn’t subtle and it just can’t fucking stop

like who in the fuck’s idea was it to make the animation this fast and this visible? previous iOS animations were successful because they were relatively subtle and now I have fucking glowworms crawling around my icons in the most distracting way possible

“I want all my icons and widgets to have a worse version of the gimmick animation on the digital apple card” said the user they think chatgpt’s simulating because they put it in the prompt “also make notifications more annoying”

wait the default context menu for images is now “copy subject” and the only way to copy the whole unaltered image, a thing I almost always intend to do, is to try and tap and hold on a part of the image that the phone’s ML doesn’t think is a subject?

what the fuck

I keep updating this thread with shit that’s wrong with this UI redesign and I also keep seeing people pretend that liquid glass is fine in 26.4, the version I’m using, because Apple must have fixed it by now

and like, does too much exposure to this shit just make you not notice the jank or something? the layouts glitching constantly? (don’t post here if it doesn’t happen to you, it happens to me across two phones) the design inconsistencies everywhere? the general extreme ugliness?

so a ton of things in Liquid Glass are smaller for no reason except for when they’re not (sometimes message send buttons dynamically get bigger but the iMessage one sure as fuck doesn’t) but for some reason they made the emoji picker’s emojis pointlessly large (the previous ones were roughly the size of a keyboard button cause that’s the fucking point) and the layout is now godawful

like it’s multi-state now so whenever I try to go to my recent emojis it slowly pulls up a ton of memoji instead

yet another place where the most used function in the layout (recent emoji) got displaced and made much more confusing to access so memoji and stickers could take its place, but selecting memoji is a hard mode switch that reconfigures almost the entire UI and makes me lose what I’m trying to do instantly

and now I just accidentally deleted the memoji I made when the feature first came out and haven’t touched since then. no confirmation just tap the “…”, get kind of lost, tap delete and poof

I tapped delete cause it was using the dreadful little face scanner to make my memoji do whatever the fuck expression it seems to think I’m always making and I figured it was defining a new individual memoji expression for later but nah delete means “destroy this memoji with no confirmation or undo”

no big loss but also fucking what

oh fucking sweet there’s an mpreg emoji, nevermind Liquid Glass is fucking awesome

I couldn’t find the 😏 emoji and I kept getting lost in the UI so I sent mpreg to someone instead and it was better, I recommend

is this how you get used to liquid glass? you give up on tasks and just send mpreg in response to everything?
it feels trite to point out the obvious but of course the update drastically reduced my battery life, why wouldn’t it

so I just noticed that like a quarter of my app icons (from the SV corps and Costco) are just logos soaked in blurry bloom that makes it look like my screen has a greasy fingerprint over the icon, and the other 3/4ths of the icons look oversharpened and have really unrealistic edge lighting

and I think this is app developers trying to make their stuff look like the system icons but the problem is those are inconsistent too, some are bloomed, some are sharp, some (camera) are badly skeuomorphic

was the team behind this too busy playing with panes of glass and jacking off over VisionOS, Apple’s least popular operating system ever, to stick with a consistent fucking design language for any of this?

hey Apple here’s some unsolicited advice: stop capitulating to fucking fascists

anyway here’s some unsolicited design advice: retrocomputing looks nice to my generation’s eyes. go back to basics. bring back a version of the System 6 UI redesigned for a modern hi-DPI mobile device. I’d use the absolute shit out of that.

is this a terrible idea? probably, but it’ll probably be a more popular idea than standardizing the UI across your product line on fucking VisionOS, a thing nobody cares about

did you know that a modern OLED display hooked up to a semi-powerful GPU is finally powerful enough to properly emulate a CRT? just throwing it out there if you need some ideas on how to make system 6 look correct

alternatively fuck the shaders and just do clean lines like the mac team probably originally wanted to

I dunno, you’re the ones with the world class design studio and focus groups

…which produced Liquid fucking Glass, a UI that feels like an alpha and is on its 5th public release

@zzt It's like if Steve Jobs, on his return to Apple declared that going forward, all models of their computers were to use the same interface as the Pippin.

@zzt god I want a return to a UI that’s understated, clearly separates functionality and content, has clear visual metaphors for things like drag areas, is FORCIBLY CONSISTENT (which is to say doesn’t let app developers fuck with window shapes, common controls, and interaction patterns), and keeps transparency to a minimum.

Liquid Glass is a disaster, and only one of my Apple devices is updated. I refuse to let it touch my work Mac until they at least have consistent rounding on all windows.

@zzt I had to google System 6 UI, as I was a PC person back then, but I think I would consider using something like that nowadays, too.

@zzt
When Tim cook donated $1mil from his own pocket to the last inauguration fund I dropped all things apple, hard..

Now I'm very happy on a Fairphone 4 by @WeAreFairphone running /e/os by @murena

Even ordered my second device this week for my business phone.

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