@arcanechat @delta

Sigh.

If this is what one of @delta's core devs is like, I don't want it anymore.



RE: https://fosstodon.org/ap/users/115532410310000993/statuses/116292612476707844

First you post slop, then you pull this shit.

I was so supportive of your work but y'all just had to ruin it huh?

This isn't your personal account where you get to make funny quips or ragebait people, this behaviour directly associates itself with Delta Chat as a whole. And of course your downstream ArcaneChat project. Although that distinction doesn't really matter as you're a core contributor to Delta Chat.

@arcanechat

what the fuck is this supposed to mean???

artists aren't fucking free. oh my god. I don't understand how a project can be so out of touch



RE: https://fosstodon.org/ap/users/115532410310000993/statuses/116292382977465468

@arcanechat

"half-assed artist" yeah that does it.

Action leads to reaction



RE: https://fosstodon.org/ap/users/115532410310000993/statuses/116292727789931405

with behaviour like this it's no wonder I don't want to sponsor you

no respect for the crafts at all, no respect for any of the people that made your slop possible in the first place.

@alexia how much do you pay for ArcaneChat???? how much did you pay me as developer and as half-assed artist????

anyways I am not up for your rude way of talking, you are welcomed to stop using ArcaneChat, you are blocked, since I don't want to engage with people with such bad energy, bye

@alexia @arcanechat isnt that exactly what theyre saying?? that they don’t have the money to hire an artist, and most aren’t gonna make stuff for free?
@azalea @alexia @arcanechat imean fair enough but if doll looks at the original video that is being talked about it is highly unnecessary , we arent talking about critical mecessary things here , if there are no funds for paying artists and if no artists volunteer it would be much better optics to 1. not post the ugliest ai generated gif ever and 2. be an ass about it right after :/
@azalea @alexia @arcanechat like , its not using ai instead of paying artists that is disrespectful, its using ai artwork in general , since it was fed the artists labour to begin with

@alexia this is the ArcaneChat account and has nothing to do with Delta Chat

(but anyways I will not keep engaging with such toxic person like you, bye)

@alexia Oh God I haven't even realized it was developed by DeltaChat dev, I Just thought it used the compatibility with it as a feature

@MarkAssPandi

adb is a dev at delta.chat too, Arcane is like adb's testing ground for delta.chat, and they're a core contributor at delta

@alexia @MarkAssPandi we are pretty diverse community of developers and contributors, and the two dozen active ones (plus the many chatmail operators) have a lot of diverging opinions on various topics. ArcaneChat is its own thing and does not necessarily follow what we consider as community consensus. The delta account here tries to channel and express more consensual takes and we have occasionally edited or deleted posts if they turned out to meet internal resistance/push-back.
@alexia @arcanechat @delta i was really promoting delta because it seemed like such a nice project, but if they're going to accept genai in any capacity, be it code, assets, video or whatever else, i do not feel comfortable endorsing it anymore

both because of the many many arguments against it (ethical, political, social, environmental, ...) and because i want to stand in solidarity with all affected professions

this technology is not acceptable in any way and none of us should be endorsing its use or endorsing projects which endorse its use

i am so fed up with this shit
@lumi @delta @alexia
judging by the replies in that thread and the rest of the profile, bro is pretty far gone and believes nothing

@alexia the real "bad faith" icing on the cake is that the video is of a sexually objectified woman clearly meant for the male gaze. like if they really just wanted to make an ad and had no money or resources, why's she like that?

i can see the prompt now
"big tity womam holding a sign that says arcane chat BIG TIDY SEXY"