meka23h ago
When I said that Serbia has no racism, I got comments that I'm racism denier and what not, mostly citing news about Serbs hating Roma. Unfortunately, we hate the people from Albania and Kosovo with the same passion, and they are the skin color as I am. I got all kinds of comments from pure hatred to "you're not right", like I wasn't born and live in Serbia to this date. On top of that, my grandmother was Roma/Gypsy so I should know what I'm talking about, right? But let's put all of that aside and just concentrate on the map in the picture. Let's even ignore the fact that when Serbia was part of Yugoslavia we formed the Non-Aligned Movement and helped African countries regain their freedom. Just look at the map! I rest my case!
Show threadsome quirky girl23h ago
@meka are you saying it's not racism if it's the same skin colour?
Show threadmeka23h ago
@lw we have ethnicity issues, not race
Show threadsome quirky girl23h ago
@meka discriminating people by "ethnicity" is racism. like, in a literal sense... that's what racism is.
Show threadmeka23h ago
@lw I learned that human races are differentiated by skin color. What did you learn?
Show threadsome quirky girl23h ago
@meka er, human races are not differentiated by skin colour. please look at the early US history of Irish and Italian people being considered not "White", even though they had white skin. racism is nothing to do with skin colour.
Show threadmeka23h ago
@lw US has tradition of calling people "black" that are considered white in the rest of the world. For example, look at Tom Morello. He says he's black, but here he would be just a normal with guy. That being said, I wouldn't trust US definition of race all that much. In the end, that's just one of the countries of almost 200.
Show threadsome quirky girl23h ago

@meka no one is calling those Irish-Americans, Black. they clearly had white skin and were not Black and did not have Black ancestors. they simply weren't admitted to the "white people" club because they were discriminated against for being uncouth, rude Irish people.

i don't know what you mean by a "US definition of race", but what i'm talking about is pretty much accepted everywhere, not just in the US. if anything, the US is slow to accept this because it means they'd have to confront their history of racism and the social construction of Whiteness that they pioneered.

Show threadmeka23h ago
@lw you lost me. So what are "white people" then?
Show threadsome quirky girl23h ago

@meka "white people" are people who are permitted to be white. does that sound absurd? it should do, because it is absurd. Irish-Americans were not considered white because, basically, they weren't WASPs. they were Catholic, they didn't fit in, they had their own communities. they didn't suit the white people club, so they weren't white.

again, if that sounds absurd, yes, it is. racism is absurd.

Show threadsome quirky girl
@meka here is some reading you might find interesting: https://annas-archive.gl/search?q=how+the+irish+became+white
how the irish became white - Search - Anna’s Archive

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Show threadmeka23h ago
@lw I don't think that was a racial issue. As a matter of fact, official US recognition of race agrees with me, more than with you: https://www.census.gov/topics/population/race/about.html
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Show threadsome quirky girl23h ago
@meka i... are you... citing... what? oh my god