Crypto as a Payment Method?

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So I am not really into cryptocurrency and only have some basic knowledge. As far as I understand the idea between crypto (or especially bitcoin) was a decentralized payment system. Everything I heard about crypto the last few years was only about trading and value going up and down blabla. How is it going so far for using it as a payment method? Are there countries, systems, spaces in the internet or anything that actually use crypto for paying? Whar are some good examples? Do you yourself use some of these? And are there maybe even PayPal-like Apps which you can use for paying in crypto to others?

Crypto is, and always has been a way for money laundering to happen. Right now, its almost exclusively used bt speculators, corruption and Libertarian perverts.

I cant remember which Latin american country attempted to switch to it, but basically it just facilitated massive corruption. Same with the trump regime.

Its fucking stupid and only serves to enable corruption. Also, Jefferson Epstein was a crypto pervert

It is also used to buy recreational drugs and life saving drugs (like HRT) on the internet in places where those things are difficult to get.
And I can use USD to pay for an assassin.
Yessss true but enough commerce happens in usd I think.
El Salvador made BTC legal tender in 2021, and backtracked in 2025.
I still wonder wtf that was about. '21-'25 an era when the world was governed by whatever tech bros on twitter were spouting off about on a given week.
THAT is the one,ya. It basically just allowed mass corruption.

Crypto is, and always has been a way for money laundering to happen.

could say the same about cash, when looking at large scale usage

Yes, but, its nearly impossible to launder 250 million dollars of bills into your pocket like trump did
the Hungarian kleptocracy would like to have a word on that
I dont know anything about that, tbh. But I struggled to imagine they are bringing that much american currency into their banks. PLUS, trump has done this multiple times and many others have, too. Thats a very different thing, I think youll agree.
they are stealing billions of hungarian forints recently, and privatizing public institutions. they have been in power for more than a decade.
Well, you know what you need to do, right?
you have changed the topic. crypto is not needed for money laundering, there are other avenues for doing that.
Me? You changed the subject first haha. Is it just as easy to launder both?
you have changed the topic. crypto is not needed for money laundering, there are other avenues for doing that.
You can pay for some things using crypto. For example, VPNs often offer that as a somewhat anonymous payment method. I’m pretty sure 99.9% of transactions are for trading and crime/scams though. The original idea of a decentralized payment system has pretty much faded into the background.

I’m pretty sure 99.9% of transactions are for trading and crime/scams though.

the same could be said about cash if only few businesses accepted it

At one point in time, it had potential. In 2026, you’re either breaking the law or getting scammed.
If you have a crypto wallet on CashApp, you can use it as payment for anything that accepts the Visa card attached to it. The only things I generally see that accept crypto directly are crypto companies or other BS in that vein.
bitcoin was a proof of concept for the distributed ledger. Since all money is just a unit of account the distributed ledger could keep track of things it was setup to show effort was done in the form of computer processing. Keep in mind its effort for efforts sake. So basically its like having a token that says you burned a barrel of oil. The creator I assume did not like the way inflation brought down the value of money so he programatically made the money (tokens) value inflate by progressively having the wasted effort increase. A token eventually require two barrels of oil burned, then four, etc. This unfortunately created a kind of frankenstein monster that is kinda useless for day to day payments but when it got on the radar of investment types caused it to be inflated through the roof from speculation. Other tokens worked to solve many of these issues but generally there has not been much interest in crypto that makes sense for day to day exchange like gridcoin. The reason is because those use the effort to create value and that is no way to get rich.
The increasing effort required to expand the ledger also helps make it harder for one actor to control enough of the computation to falsify transactions. I think thats at about 50% of the computation

How are you “Really into crypto” but asking these questions?

Crypto’s a lost cause. It’s used for laundering money and for ransom payments to threat actors. The Trump family is exploiting their power to exploit Stablecoins and skim money into their coffers.

Crypto was a novel idea that had its time in the sun, but now it’s lost its luster.

Good luck on whatever you’re doing with it… I hope you get what you’re looking for from it.

The important part about a negation is the negation itself. It changes the meaning to the opposite of what was stated.
Sorry for wanting to learn about decentralized payment solutions…
OP said they aren’t really into… And for a person who does not know, these are valid questions.
I need to quote shit going forward, because I’m pretty certain it said “really into,” without the “not.” Happy to be wrong here. It would make more sense.
Mullvad takes Monero
I was paying for web hosting with monero quite a bit back in the day, but I actually don’t care about being an honest anymore so I don’t do that it’s annoying
Nano is one of the examples of how a crypto currency can be used for payments. Unfortunately it’s all useless because the crypto space is dominated a speculative investments and scams.

I know this was the goal of Nano (XNO) originally. I still love the idea of it but with all the regulations and stuff now I think nano is kinda dead (or at least unpopular) It seems the only crypto used for transactions is Monaro.

I remember years ago hearing about a Minecraft server using it as “premium” currency which I thought was interesting. I think the idea was you could earn real money on their game server.

It’s so cheap now you could probably use it as currency for a game if you really wanted

It was a useful alternative to Western Union and other international currency transfer services many years ago, but I don’t have a current use case other than as part of a diversified asset portfolio. Relative to metals it’s easier to buy and sell if needed, and you still have custody of the goods.

One Bitcoin is still worth one Bitcoin, it’s the value relative to other currencies that is highly volatile.

It can be used for payments as others have stated, but can be a hassle since, in Australia at least, you have to declare all of it and pay capital gains taxes, generally requiring use of a third pay like Koinly to manage it.

And are there maybe even PayPal-like Apps which you can use for paying in crypto to others?

Yep things like Venmo and Revolut, if I understand correctly. i.e the newest payment apps which have recently pivoted into becoming independent banks, now that they’ve gathered enough venture capital to do so.

I cringe at the thought of having to liquidate a large sum of crypto every month just so I can pay my phone bill, fill up my car, and buy a wedge of blue cheese.

Are there countries, systems, spaces in the internet or anything that actually use crypto for paying?

Plenty of sites take crypto. Not as much that would make it especially useful, but keep an eye out.

I’ve been working with crypto for years and the fact that merchant services has been so neglected has been the most disappointing thing to me. Adoption is hard when everyone knee-jerks “scam” or they view it as too complicated and scary.

And since there’s no user-excitement, that kind of causes nobody to invest engineering time into building user-friendly systems for accepting and making payments. It’s just been more profitable to put that time into nonsense like trading, derivatives, and made up use cases for tokens.

VC money kind of ruins everything.

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There are some places in the more touristy parts of Havana Cuba that accept crypto as payment.

In general crypto is only going to be adopted in situations where there aren’t more convenient alternatives. Because of the embargo you cant use American bank cards to make purchases in Cuba. People are always going to use whatever is most convenient. In most cases that’s not going to be crypto. It’s the legal barriers that prevent using a normal credit card that create the situation where people would use crypto.

I use crypto to pay for my IPTV sub. It’s a pain and otherwise it’s a ponzie scheme, but fuck paying for all the streaming services. They’ve had their pound of flesh.