we don't look at people in the historical record and say "well those weren't "men" or "women" in the sense that we use the word today in western cultures" do we. i mean, we certainly could, but we don't

yet if you try to call a historical figure "trans" people go "whoa now, that's not appropriate to apply that label outside of western culture"

i guess the assumption being that EVERYTHING about the categories "man" and "woman" is immutable and transcends culture, while EVERYTHING about the category "trans" is culturally defined and does not

and this is.. maybe not true?

@ana not just maybe not true, we have pretty solid evidence from a lot of cultures that gender roles, definitions and the borders between them have been wildly different for them compared to the modern western standard