sbird1d ago

(not a good idea) Aside from possible allergy concerns, what's stopping people from grinding all the food waste into a mixed paste?

https://sopuli.xyz/post/43074440

(not a good idea) Aside from possible allergy concerns, what's stopping people from grinding all the food waste into a mixed paste? - Sopuli

Far too much food is just binned if somebody is too full, needs to leave early, or similar, and if food wasn’t wasted, there would not be nearly as large of a hunger crisis. Encouraging the reduction of food waste is great, but I’m wondering whether the inevitable food waste could be collected in special bins and be reprocessed into a mixture of various foods, a bit like recycled plastic almost. This obviously could be bad for those with allergies, and there’s no clear expiry date for such a mixed assortment of food. There is also the trouble of people throwing in non food items, like tissues and plastic wrapping. This is already a big problem in recycling! An alternative could be to separate food waste into multiple bins (meats, vegetables, nuts, dairy, etc.) that could be individually processed, kind of like how recycling is separated into paper, plastic, and cans. Then, allergens could be separated, vegetarian unfriendly products too, and the reprocessed food would be less of a mix and could be portioned into balanced diets. Some food waste is already processed to become compost, but I’m wondering whether it’s possible for reprocessed food waste to be edible and eaten over being dumped in landfills? edit: mmm yep looks like a really good way to catch all sorts of nasty pathogens. Varied expiry dates also sounds pretty bad. Maybe not a good idea. And yeah, it does sound pretty nasty.

Show threadSarah1d ago

Maybe feed the scraps to chickens then eat their eggs? Seems cleaner and easier.

I would much rather that than eating someone else’s roats lamb from a month ago, even if it were “processed” (I guess you mean dehydrated ?)

Show threadJerkface (any/all)1d ago
That’s cruel and requires violence. There are situations that justify cruelty and violence, but given that there is no food scarcity, it is not justified now.
Show threadRhynoplaz1d ago

Feeding chickens and eating eggs is cruel and violent?

I’d love to hear your misguided reasoning.

Show threadJerkface (any/all)1d ago
Individuals must be treated as ends, never as means.
Show threadRhynoplaz1d ago

I have cats. Aside from rodent control, they don’t serve any purpose other than being part of the family. If my cats somehow had the ability to lay eggs, and since they are all fixed these are unfertilized eggs with no possibility of bearing offspring. Would it be wrong if me to make an omelette from them?

I might have made it more weird by using my cats.

But if you had a few chickens and provided them food and shelter and took good care of them, like you would any pet, why not use their eggs? They’re going to lay them either way. Is it more moral to throw them away?

Show threadJerkface (any/all)19h ago

Those chickens didn’t just happen. Their very existence is abuse. Creating an individual with the preformed intent that you prevent it from becoming able to care for itself, that it will be dependent on you for everything for it’s entire life, that is one of the most abusive things you can do to another individual.

Fine, rescue your cats or whatever, but that’s not what you’re talking about right now. You’re talking about a captive individual (ie a slave) who exists to convert calories for you, like a machine. And if you build your lifestyle around stealing eggs from slaves, then it’s not just one chicken, is it? You gotta replace them whenever they can no longer meet your needs for eggs. And in this scenario, what use is a broken machine that doesn’t produce eggs.

You’re not simply taking eggs that they would be laying anyway; they wouldn’t EXIST. Not as an individual, but also not as a genentic line that is cursed to lay far more eggs than its own interests have any reason for it to lay. It lays so many eggs that its body becomes depleted. It is not natural for chickens to lay eggs so often! That is something that we did to them. And it’s yet more abuse!

Abuse is inescapable when you use an individual’s body for your own purposes.

And again, we are talking about fucking eggs. There is no food shortage. So there is no justification for even a little bit of cruelty and violence. Plus, eggs are not good for you in the first place!!

Are Eggs Really Healthy? | NutritionFacts.org

Salmonella concerns aside, eating even one egg a day may exceed the safe upper limit for cholesterol intake in terms of cardiovascular disease risk.

Show threadRhynoplaz19h ago

Wow. That’s nuts. I respect that it’s your opinion, and I wish you the best of luck, but what do you eat?

I hope it’s not plant based. Because growing an individual from a seed only to eventually slaughter and devour it is cruel. Have you even considered how the plant feels when pluck it’s genitals off and eat them, or in some instances, gather a bunch and put them out on display?! How grotesque!

Just because plants can’t tell you how much they are suffering, do you take that as consent to dominate and devour them at your will?

Show threadJerkface (any/all)

Okay, I can see you have become defensive. It’s understandable. When I finally accepted the vast cruelty and violence I was a part of, it fucking broke me. That is what you are trying to avoid. That is what I tried to avoid for a very long time. Eventually I accepted that I could not be a kind, decent, good person, and continue to use cruelty and violence to exploit unwilling individuals. The person I was deserved to be broken.

I’m going to let you take back your bad faith arguments. This isn’t merely an intellectual exercise for either of us. We’re talking about things that matter and choices we make many times every day and it’s hard to talk about dispassionately and objectively. When you use bad faith, it’s not because you think it will defeat me, but because it’s all you have to distract yourself from thoughts and feelings that you don’t want to process.

Mar 25 at 1:08pmWeb
Show threadRhynoplaz17h ago

No, not defensive. You do you, and your thoughts on what I do, don’t affect me at all.

I just think it’s odd that you draw the line between plants and animals, when the animals themselves don’t even draw that same line. Some animals are designed to eat other animals, and some are designed to be eaten. It’s the natural order.

Sorry to keep referencing cats, but they NEED meat. Some people have tried to force their cats to go vegan, only to kill their feline friend.

By all means, if you need to create an illogical moral superiority to justify your existence, go right ahead, but know that there is no prize for whoever voluntarily suffers the most. In the end, the animals will thank you just as much as the plants would if you stopped eating those.