Lee DunaAge checks creep into Linux as systemd gets a DOB field
NarrativeBearNo thanks, not the distro I will be using.
Systemd isn’t a distro, it’s an init and bootstrapper that underlies several distros
If the hyperventilators could read that would be a very good point.
Look it’s mr. Fort Lauderdale again^
. Fort Lauderdale
You know this is a California law we are talking about right?
I guess when everything is a. 7th dimensional alien invasion to you, little things like geography don’t matter.
How do I come back at someone calling me a fed?
Fuck, I don’t have any good arguments pro compliance
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Guess I’m going to show how stupid and crazy they are by a pedant
Haha, that’ll show 'em
^you probably
How do I come back at someone pointing out i can’t/don’t read and am hyperventilating over laws that don’t exist outside of my mind? Call everyone a fed.
~ Litterally you
laws that don’t exist outside of my mind
…legislature.ca.gov/…/billTextClient.xhtml?bill_i… eff.org/…/ab-1043s-internet-age-gates-hurt-everyo…
I don’t know about you but this looks pretty real to me? Are you going to tell me that there is no AB 1043. Maybe you are trapped in a solipsistic world where this sort of encroachment doesn’t exist.
I know what you are going to say next, “Have you yourself ever seen the curvature of the Ear-”, but let me stop you for a sec and tell you that when you think everything is Alex Jones, you should maybe look at yourself and ask question yourself “Maybe I am Alex Jones?”
JFC did you even read the article you linked to. What’s the point in talking to people hyperventilating so hard you don’t read your own sources.
Even proposals that may not explicitly mandate age verification
Look, I can selectively quote what you say to completely fuck up the meaning of things!
little things like geography don’t matter.
texturethey easily might have meant that the distro they will be using has declared they will not implement this
TeamAssimilationThat was very, very likely what the main comment meant. The correction was unnecessary.
Me too!
Although someone (steam maybe? I don’t remember) updated their system and won’t take it anymore. So now it’s 1930-01-01.
You should try it. It’s like I’m 30 years younger!
Born just in time to not be able to be a nazi!
Yes, I know the Hitler Youth existed…but I don’t hold that against those (at the time) children. They were being conditioned to support a system they didn’t understand.
I figure anyone younger than 20 is too young to be blamed for all that crap. The brain stops developing at age 23. So I don’t expect an 8 year old to hold a very good grasp on international politics and wars. Especially in an age where an hour nightly AM radio broadcast, and a daily morning newspaper were your only source for news.
happily updates its birthdate to 2018-01-01 you can’t blame me now. Take that, woke people.
The brain stops developing at age 23.
No it doesn’t. The brain continues to develop and change throughout the lifetime of the organism.
The tech nerds should be setting theirs to 1970-01-01 at 00:00 UTC.
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𞋴𝛂𝛋𝛆In other news there has been a massive uptick in Boomers converting to Linux…
My go to is usually 09/21/1978
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rnercleThe contents of the field will be protected from modification except by users with root privileges.
sudo my age to a thousand years then; no, thank you very very much
sudoer777
underiskAn init system does not need to know my personal details; it’s for starting programs in a specific order just fuck off with this shit. You don’t even have to capitulate to this stuff and these freaks are out here doing it preemptively like they expect a fucking pat on the head for being first in line to dive tongue first on to that boot.
Systemd isn’t an init system. Systemd-init is an init system and it is a part of the systemd suite.
It doesn’t need to know your age. It just provides a way to take a note of your birth date, only if you want to. The system already has a place to write your name and home address. All are optional and practically nobody uses them.
I find it suspicious how it’s mostly new, few days old users defending this shit. Fuck off bot, go suck your master’s cock.
idegenszavakIt doesn’t know how old are you, it just remembers a date you tell it. You can give your birthday, but you can choose any other day
This is step 1.
Final step: Scan your passport to verify and populate the date of birth field.
It already has fields for personal information, though, and they’re every bit as sensitive as your birthdate. realName, emailAddress, location, and timezone are already in there. The important part is that they’re all optional, and you don’t have to fill them in at all, or can fill them in with fake data. The system still serves you, not some outside party.
But the timing of it does have a lot of people freaking out about it.
tabularI now fear it will one day be required for services on the internet (as it is by a rescent law in Calafornia). I want to make that less uikely, and more difficult to implement.
Having a principle the majority do not have and refusing to participate means being another step further out of society.
“I’ve already raped your mouth. Rapping your ass is not gonna be any worse”
I find it suspicious how it’s mostly new, few days old users defending this shit. Fuck off bot, go suck your master’s cock.
paraphrandWhat service should handle it instead?
Why is it need at all??
NONE
Because it’s going to be a legal requirement, with fines of $7000 per affected underage user, which will instantly bankrupt the US-based non-profit representing Debian, Arch and others, and kill off community-maintained Linux.
Do note: The legal requirement is NOT for age verification. Only for having a field where you as the admin can enter whatever the fuck you want.
If you don’t agree with the law, good. Neither do I. But the devs aren’t the ones to apply pressure to, here.
They’re forced to do this to keep the lights on, and they’ve implemented it in a way that keeps you as the admin in full control.
Why doesn’t Debian do it instead of systemd? Let the distros decide on the plan of action, this is clearly not something that systemd has to decide. The people maintaining systemd are leveraging the fact that their shite software runs on more than 95% of Linux machines. What is weird too is compliance ahead of time. Compliance ahead of time makes sense with cars, but software can be updated immediately when necessary.
Debian takes the source code from upstream systemd and creates their own deb package. They’re free to leave out the date field.
Literally no one forced them to do that yet. They just decided to get on their knees preemptively and start licking boots
Open source software has maintainers all around the world. Why the fuck would the rest of the world care about this fucked up law coming from ONE state?
Again, no one is forced to do anything. And if I was a maintainer on FOSS where I would be forced to implement something like this, I would just stop contributing to that project.
Fuck everyone going along with this state surveillance bullshit.
It takes a long while for a PR to make it into the distros. The law goes into effect in less than a year.
The organization distributing donations to the various distros (Software In The Public Interest) sits in the US and needs to follow US law in order to not be shut down.
Without them, Debian, Arch, LibreOffice, Systemd and dozens of others have no more funding.
Tattoracktell me you have only a passing understanding of how modern linux is architected without telling me you have only a passing understanding of how modern linux is architected
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