HellsBelleCarney’s ‘Defeatist’ Dismissal of International Law | The Tyee
AGMSad to say, but the Carney Doctrine is bs. The speech he gave in Davos and what we see in practice are two very different things.
masterspaceNo, this is literally exactly what he said in Davos.
Remember the part about how we can only afford to be generous from strength? His point was that beggars don’t get to influence the systems that govern our world in a meaningful way, i.e. sometimes you have to focus on building yourself up in order to be a force for good.
patatasI agree that it’s what he said in Davos, but this ‘doctrine’ is effectively just caving to the outlook of Trump, Putin, et al, which deems that economic and military might make right, and that we should measure human worth in GDP rather than the inherent value of one’s humanity.
The Carney Doctrine is Value over Values, in other words. It’s really cynical and shitty tbh
I agree that it’s what he said in Davos, but this ‘doctrine’ is effectively just caving to the outlook of Trump, Putin, et al, which deems that economic and military might make right, and that we should measure human worth in GDP rather than the inherent value of one’s humanity.
You did not understand his speech at all then.
The literal entire thesis of it was that we take the world as it is, not as we want it to be. The game isn’t always set up to let you play nice and still achieve a good outcome.
Well, let’s look at Carney’s actions then.
He vocally supported the kidnapping of Maduro.
Then just days later he went and made some handshake investment deal with Qatar, a gulf dictatorship that used thousands of slaves to build its World Cup stadiums, and is the country holding onto the proceeds of Trump’s sale of stolen Venezuelan oil.
Then Carney cheered the unprovoked US & Israeli attacks on Iran, walked back his support a little when he saw the public outrage, and is now trying to weasel-word his was into Canadian troops supporting the fascist US in a war of aggression.
Brookfield has billions of dollars invested in the gulf states like Qatar that Carney is suddenly calling our “partners”, by the way
So Maduro was a good guy? Not a Dictator?
Qatar is bad, but Alberta is ok?
Canada would have been in Iran day 1 with Poilievre, if we weren’t the 51st state already.
It’s a turd sandwich or shit burrito situation, and it’s also impossible to please everyone’s moral center, because there is no right answer in the Gaza.
Sure, it’s 2026, everyone is an anti semite, Zionist, Fascist or tankie to the moral clerics on Reddit/lemmy.
It’s important to remember that Liberal leaders are just harm reduction as we avoid the blue faux-ristocracy. Ideally we would have an orange government or even a strong orange crutch holding up a minority red if we want some progress on things that matter to Canadians.
This guy is here to weather the economic attack from America by strengthening ties with Europe, and build up military and infrastructure so we can survive when America cuts of off from theirs in some fit of juvenile pique.