No, this is literally exactly what he said in Davos.

Remember the part about how we can only afford to be generous from strength? His point was that beggars don’t get to influence the systems that govern our world in a meaningful way, i.e. sometimes you have to focus on building yourself up in order to be a force for good.

I agree that it’s what he said in Davos, but this ‘doctrine’ is effectively just caving to the outlook of Trump, Putin, et al, which deems that economic and military might make right, and that we should measure human worth in GDP rather than the inherent value of one’s humanity.

The Carney Doctrine is Value over Values, in other words. It’s really cynical and shitty tbh

I agree that it’s what he said in Davos, but this ‘doctrine’ is effectively just caving to the outlook of Trump, Putin, et al, which deems that economic and military might make right, and that we should measure human worth in GDP rather than the inherent value of one’s humanity.

You did not understand his speech at all then.

The literal entire thesis of it was that we take the world as it is, not as we want it to be. The game isn’t always set up to let you play nice and still achieve a good outcome.

Well, let’s look at Carney’s actions then.

He vocally supported the kidnapping of Maduro.

Then just days later he went and made some handshake investment deal with Qatar, a gulf dictatorship that used thousands of slaves to build its World Cup stadiums, and is the country holding onto the proceeds of Trump’s sale of stolen Venezuelan oil.

Then Carney cheered the unprovoked US & Israeli attacks on Iran, walked back his support a little when he saw the public outrage, and is now trying to weasel-word his was into Canadian troops supporting the fascist US in a war of aggression.

Brookfield has billions of dollars invested in the gulf states like Qatar that Carney is suddenly calling our “partners”, by the way

Yes, all of those actions taken to strengthen Canada economically, and position us to be in a position of future economic power that will give us the ability to enact and shape fairer systems.

You’re bitching and complaining about short term hedging his bets diplomatic moves. Naiively pursuing the most noble action at all time will not lead to a better world, it will lead to good people getting prefictably out maneuvered by shitty ones.

What’s interesting about this discussion is that all the “good” stuff Carney is supposedly aiming at is entirely hypothetical and rhetorical, and the bad stuff is very real.

40,000 jobs cut in the federal public sector by someone who promised to “cap, not cut” the public service.

Massive cuts to the CBC by someone who promised to increase their funding.

But we should keep trusting him?

I was told that Carney understood climate change and economics, and then he went and tripled down on the same fossil fuels that are causing the current global geopolitical and economic crisis. Oh, and greenwashing is legal again, which is the cherry on top of that shit sundae.

It’s been over a year of cuts and deregulation benefitting massive corporations. How long are people prepared to cling to their religious-like faith in a man who has only ever been a friend to the Goldman Sachs/Brookfield class?

It’s been over a year of cuts and deregulation benefitting massive corporations.

My fucking god. You expect him to snap his fingers, and have major nation building infrastructure projects complete and profitable within a year?

Short sighted bitching like this is why we can’t have nice things. Get off the internet and go live your life.