Arne Brasseur8h ago

It's clear that AI assisted coding is dividing developers (welcome to the culture wars!). I've seen a few blog posts now that talk about how some people just "love the craft", "delight in making something just right, like knitting", etc, as opposed to people who just "want to make it work". As if that explains the divide.

How about this, some people resent the notion of being a babysitter to a stochastic token machine, hastening their own cognitive decline. Some people resent paying rent to a handful of US companies, all coming directly out of the TESCREAL human extinction cult, to be able to write software. Some people resent the "worse is better" steady decline of software quality over the past two decades, now supercharged. Some people resent that the hegemonic computing ecosystem is entirely shaped by the logic of venture capital. Some people hate that the digital commons is walled off and sold back to us. Oh and I guess some people also don't like the thought of making coding several orders of magnitude more energy intensive during a climate emergency.

But sure, no, it's really because we mourn the loss of our hobby.

Show threadHans Hübner8h ago

@plexus In the end, software engineering is about creating solutions to problems other people have. The solutions are not a byproduct, but the primary purpose. To the majority of users, the inner workings and the creation process of software is opaque. The qualities that software exposes on the outside are largely independent of its inner workings.

This means that for most people in the software industry, adapting to the new tooling that makes the creation process more efficient is 1/

Show threadHans Hübner8h ago

@plexus not a matter of choice, or resent. The market for "human crafted" software will be small, much smaller than the market for software that is cheap and does what users "want".

It is clear that the hidden costs of LLM generated software are huge, but these costs are not going to be realised at the point of creation.

This mechanism is the same for many aspects of capitalism. Opting out of one thing won't fix the system, but is a gesture. Just. 2/2

Show threadcan7h ago
@hanshuebner @plexus yes and no. It‘s a systemic problem that needs a fix on a regulatory scale. But enough single devs opting out can also make a difference. Furthermore, regulation is done by politics, which in the end is the sum of the votes and voices of the people.
Show threadohir5h ago

@can @hanshuebner @plexus
> on a regulatory scale

You can't "regulate" anymore.

The one-hour income of the business to be regulated surpasses sum* of whole-live earnings of less than thousand politicians that might regulate.

*Sans the side channel paymnts from the unregulated.

Show threadHans Hübner5h ago
@ohir @can @plexus Is it worth fighting for a world were regulation is possible? Or do we just need to succumb to the all-encompassing power of the economy and capitalism?
Show threadohir
@hanshuebner @can @plexus
> Is it worth fighting for a [just] world
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFu0o8NB5Io
Daniel Kahn & The Painted Bird - "Freedom Is A Verb" (official video)

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