its actually worse bc ports are counted twice for 2.0 & 3.0

https://lemmy.world/post/44674585

someone is going to nerdsnipe me so i will add that technically its 15 registered ports per USB controller, so you can add a dongle and have more than 15. a mobo usually only has 1 USB controller for way more than 15 USB ports though, Apple added this arbitrary restriction for no reason since none of their devices have that many ports. so a typical PC motherboard just straight up destabilizes the system lmfao
Okay but what kind of application is it used for that you exceed 15 ports filled??

but why would you need [thing that is already technically possible and could conceivably be needed]???

Are you an apple dev?

Well, from an Apple pov, there’s no reason to change that limit (which is probably there because of some legacy limitation) until they release a device with more usb ports, which they probably won’t. macOS isn’t supposed to run on your pc motherboard after all.
But I agree that it’s annoying. I was daily driving a hackintosh with catalina for two years. Wasn’t the easiest setup.

Yeah, but from Apple’s perspective, a lot of shitty things make more sense but I still ain’t okay with them :)

I was thinking of trying to do hackintosh before I switched to Linux. I think I dodged a bullet.

Yeah, and from an Apple POV it makes sense to take away common ports just to make the phone .01mm thinner and sell you a shitty peripheral to replace the hardware port.

Doesn’t mean it’s a good idea or something that people would accept from a company they didn’t have cult like devotion towards.

I‘d argue though, there is a difference between a technical limitation apple just doesn’t care about resolving because it just doesn’t matter for any device their software is officially available on and them intentionally removing features.
Like, I don’t think the port limit was an executive decision but some random programmer’s who wrote that code like 25 years ago when he decided that one byte must suffice for the total count of usb ports.
One byte is much larger than 15.
Yea, you’re right, my math wasn’t quite mathing, I’ve had a long day. I meant 4 bit.
I am just asking what they are doing to need that as I cannot think of anything off the top of my head
I mean, it’s pretty easy to imagine needing 10 USB ports. I think I’m using around that many myself on my desktop. Then just add a couple more for things that may be things needed temporarily.
I can hardly imagine needing 15 ports at the same time.
Doesn’t exactly inspire confidence in your imagination.
Well I am currently using about 5-6 ports on my PC and 2 of those are not really needed. I can imagine using a couple more but certainly not 15
The thing is though, every situation is different. I’m glad the designers of USB did not think like you do. Having the ability to use a lot of devices might be rare but it’s definitely been needed before, whether or not others can imagine it.
Fuck’s sake I was just asking what they were using it for that they filled out 15 ports and everyone is attacking me for thinking 15 is too much or something.
The question wasn’t a problem. The repeated implications that it’s too many is obviously what annoyed people.
I never implied it’s too many. I just said I cannot think of a way to use 15 ports (as in my personal setup). Might not have been the most clear but never implied it.
Well I’m truly not trying to argue with you I’m just saying how I read it and I presume from the other comments how they read it too.

meanwhile I’m overhere with…

keyboard, mouse, camera, 4x flash drive, game controller, ebook reader, external storage disk, printer, VR headset, multimedia card reader, LED controller, my monitor (USBc display + hub + KVM) and my phone…

ofcourse not all at the same time. but I have a mess of USB extensions and hubs as I don’t have enough root Ports lol

(Linux not hacintosh) I apparently couldn’t run it if I wanted to.

Yeah that was my main thing. It can be done but most people don’t need all of those plugged in constantly
My kids gaming pc tower has a set of usb ports on the back and a set on the front. It’s great to have options, but he’s not going to use them all. Ie he has ten usb ports for the five he uses
Fair enough, but not everyone is your kid. Needing to have things plugged in at once shouldn’t need defending. I would prefer to leave things plugged in if I can. USB supports that, so why wouldn’t I?

I mean the point is there’s a convenience factor where you might have twice as many ports as you’re willing to use

It’s not just that you might have more devices or want to leave them plugged in, but you may find some of them undesirable to use

Music production.

When I worked for Apple, I do remember the iOS devs having racks of iOS devices all being flashed at the same time off a single Mac. But I don’t remember the count and this was years ago—like Snow Leopard to El Cap era.

I was just kind of data analytics, but the labs were near my area, so can’t really give much more info, but mildly interesting, I guess?