Daisy Leigh BreneckiWHAT DO YOU MEAN, 1 FLUID OUNCE OF WATER DOESNT WEIGH 1 OUNCE
America are you OK over there???
WHAT DO YOU MEAN, A FLUID OUNCE IS DIFFERENT IN THE US AND UK
AND THEN THE US HAS A THIRD DIFFERENT FLUID OUNCE
Okay apparently the US and UK use the same ounce for weight, and the UK fl oz is 1 oz weight of water, but the US fl oz is slightly different and is apparently based on how wine was measured in the UK pre-1824???
everything I find out about imperial measurements just makes me more perplexed
Also apparently there is a separate definition for US food labelling that is exactly 30mL which is hilarious
Funky Bob
Simon Welsh@daisy Need (a lot) more of that pre-1824 measure before it starts making sense
Noah K@daisy If it makes you feel better, I've been dealing with it for my whole life and I still have to double check how many ounces are in each unit because we just use mass and volume seemingly at random.
@coderanger The ability to convert between units in my head is something I definitely take for granted
itgrrl 
@coderanger @daisy “biblically accurate imperial measures poster” 🙅♀️
Jeff Forcier@itgrrl @coderanger @daisy was gonna say, alt text slightly inaccurate, it clearly resembles the classic Sefirot and one imagines that’s not an accident
@bitprophet @coderanger @daisy I was riffing on these sorts of “biblically accurate angels” memes & wasn’t aware of the Sefirot, but I see the resemblance
@coderanger To be fair, tsp/tbsp/cup are still used over here, but they’re defined in terms of mL. (1 tsp = 5mL, 1 tbsp = 20mL, 1 cup = 250mL.)
Interestingly, the Australian metric tablespoon is 20mL but the international metric tablespoon is 15mL. So yeah, we are not entirely free of sin over here.
@coderanger @daisy An old manager pointed out to me that for most practical purposes, everything (in cooking, at least) has about the same density as water.
Which would make sense for the UK floz, but he was a USAian...
@FunkyBob @coderanger The difference is like 4% so it’s probably within tolerance for home cooking I guess?
Also some digital kitchen scales do have a mode you can set them to that measures (presumably US) fl oz of water too
Chaucerburnt@daisy the US has two slightly different versions of basically every imperial unit, it's hilarious. See e.g. International foot vs survey foot: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foot_(unit)
@chaucerburnt fucksake
At least the US foot in common use matches the UK foot I guess?
@chaucerburnt @Reynardo oh it’s over 3cm, whoa
chunky inch
1.3.6.1.4.1.61513
Oilfield Units: a Measurement System so Cursed it made me Change Career
Russell Keith-Magee@daisy Yes... and I'm afraid I have bad news for you about Australian Tablespoons. https://youtu.be/PWbfVcDcfFw?t=349
Cursed Units 3: The British Empire Strikes Back
Daisy Leigh Brenecki (@[email protected])
@coderanger To be fair, tsp/tbsp/cup are still used over here, but they’re defined in terms of mL. (1 tsp = 5mL, 1 tbsp = 20mL, 1 cup = 250mL.) Interestingly, the Australian metric tablespoon is 20mL but the international metric tablespoon is 15mL. So yeah, we are not entirely free of sin over here.
@daisy Yup - caught that down the history after I posted. Sorry for the noise!
@freakboy3742 @daisy can’t fool me, Australian Tablespoons is just a street drug name.
@bitprophet @freakboy3742 nah it’s the name of a pub rock band
Jannis Leidel@freakboy3742 @daisy Fuuuuuuu!!! Liter. Fucking use liter.
@freakboy3742 @daisy Sorry, I know this was rage bait.
Andy McKay 🇨🇦
Josh 
@jezdez @freakboy3742 @daisy but a liter’s much bigger than a teaspoon! It’s even more than a quart! If we’re going that large, might as well use a Maß.
@jezdez @daisy Look, can’t we just agree that the FFF system is what we should standardize on? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FFF_system
@freakboy3742 @jezdez ahem https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beer_in_Australia#Beer_glasses (one of my favorite tables on Wikipedia)
Alyssa Coghlan@daisy @coderanger @freakboy3742 @jezdez Is a big one a schooner or a pint? Is a small one a pot/middy or a schooner? (I mostly just ask for a schooner or a pint, and haven't been to Adelaide/SA this century, so SA's "two sizes of pint" shenanigans don't affect me)
@ancoghlan @coderanger @freakboy3742 @jezdez Usually bartenders will interpret “a big one” as “the biggest size we have” and “a small one” as “the smallest size we have”.
Kit Bashir@daisy Florida Ounces
DJ Fragile Toolchains@daisy but if a fluid ounce weighed an ounce it would be an ounce not a fluid ounce 🫣🫣🫣