210561 ✨ [Q]2d ago

good luck to all the Internet folks in the US, looks like the FCC just banned all non-US manufactured consumer routers, with all of 3 days warning

https://www.fcc.gov/supplychain/coveredlist
https://www.fcc.gov/sites/default/files/NSD-Routers0326.pdf

h/t @erincandescent for finding this
EDIT: correct h/t to Krebs https://infosec.exchange/@briankrebs/116280575943263005

Show threadNatalie2d ago
@q Trying to think of a single COTS router manufactured in the US and failing!
Show thread210561 ✨ [Q]2d ago
@xferok exactly! if this is followed through the US is fucked...
Show threadNatalie2d ago
@q It seems nonsense enough to go mostly unenforced, but I could see it impacting our ability to get data radios for CBTC. I really hope this doesn’t happen.
Show thread210561 ✨ [Q]2d ago

@xferok well what this does is forbid FCC type approval of any new devices, which they themselves at least are likely to follow

and then the US will slowly run out of importable routers to sell anyone...

Show threadNatalie2d ago
@q this seems like a Bad! Idea!
Show threadNatalie2d ago
@q Also like, what definition of manufactured are we using? If it relies on chip fabs we’re fucked fucked.
Show thread210561 ✨ [Q]2d ago

@xferok again, unclear!

but probably the 50% plus 1 rule - that is, more than half the value has to have been added in the US

Show threadNatalie2d ago
@q listen boss. the value is the plastic. our customers love that we put the blue and the black plastic together in the United States. What’s inside the plastic? Don’t worry about it boss, just some computer, but the domestic plastic is where the value is.
Show threadCyan, like the color2d ago

@xferok @q i mean i guess cisco will just have to raise the price of routers until the "value" they add in the US (i.e. sale price minus price of materials / manufacture) is over half of it

thankfully it already is,

Show thread210561 ✨ [Q]2d ago

@wxcafe @xferok back to the good old days of a linksys in every home

wait shit Linksys is Foxconn since 2018

Show threadCyan, like the color2d ago
@q @xferok well it doesn't apply to consumer grade routers, i thought?
Show thread210561 ✨ [Q]2d ago
@wxcafe @xferok see the last page of this, it explictly is for that
Show threadNatalie2d ago
@q @wxcafe exciting
Show threadCyan, like the color2d ago
@xferok @q getting my american friends postal adress so i can still communicate with them once they lose network access
Show threadThe Doctor
@wxcafe @xferok @q Very, very smart.
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