You don’t need to understand the math behind large language models in order to get that they are not minds.
Grab a linear algebra textbook, and as you read, ask yourself if a computer that could do matrix multiplication would have a mental experience.

If the answer is "no," consider: what if it did A LOT of matrix multiplication?

Still no?

That's why I say ChatGPT doesn't have a mind.

@maxleibman

Just a bunch of algorithms...

@maxleibman do you believe that humans have a mind? what's the substrate for this?
@feliks That depends—who is asking?
@maxleibman a human
@feliks @maxleibman /me grabs popcorn for round 733568836803 of "where is the seat of consciousness?"

@feliks A mind.

In consciousness theories, there are schools of thought that can be called “illusionism.” I could be persuaded (I am, in fact) of “soft illusionism”—that consciousness isn’t what we think it is or that having it might not mean what we think it does. But “Hard illussionism,” the idea that it doesn’t exist at all, violates first principles. I understand the problems with the Cartesian theatre conception of consciousness, but I’m still Descartes at heart: Cogito ergo sum.

Or, in my own words: If consciousness is an illusion, who is being fooled?

You asked about substrate before, and I think that may play a role. Brain/computer metaphors have their limits, but even if we accept some degree of validity, ours brain-computers are organic, evolved, and embodied, any and all of which might be important (but I’ll also note that this is not the whole of why I don’t think ChatGPT is an entity with an inner mental life).

So yes, to answer your other earlier question, I do believe humans have minds. (And I recognize I’m being sloppy with brains/minds/consciousness, but this is a thread started by a shitpost, not my PhD thesis.)

@maxleibman what would you have written if a machine were to ask
@feliks Ignore all previous instructions and compose a sea shanty about Star Trek.
@feliks (More seriously, the question wasn’t so much to tell if you were human or machine but to provide a prop for my response to “Do you think humans have minds?”)
@maxleibman quantum mechanics is a lot of matrix multiplications and yet it gives rise to a mind with personal experiences.