David CrispinRE: https://mstdn.social/@Free_Press/116279593842263847I'm sure lack of ATC will come into play during the investigation by the NTSB... From what I saw it doesn't look like the plane even attempted to slow down much if at all before impact. Not sure why the fire truck would have been there though, should have been notified of an incoming aircraft. #uspoli #TrumpDidThis
I understand the plane couldn't stop on a dime, etc. but the fact it's coming out that the ATC on duty before the crash was apparently the only one directing air and ground traffic at the time of the crash
Lack of ATCs, over worked, stressed, will make mistakes, and has cost lives, this is just one more on the list, that unfortunately will only get bigger the longer this shit goes on. The #pedoPrez, and all that support him, meaning the whole Republican party, and more, Needs to go the way of Hitler, who by the way #pedoPrez adores...
Ev DelenThere was ATC, the controller even admits that he screwed up.
The aircraft was cleared to land. Separately, ATC cleared the firetruck to cross the runway, which was responding to a separate emergency, but immediately cancelled that crossing clearance ten times. Evidently the firetruck didn't hear.
The aircraft had reverse thrust activated, as photos show. Aircraft cannot stop on a dime, especially immediately after touchdown.
RADIO AUDIO of Air Canada Plane Crash with Fire Truck at LaGuardia
Richard Nairn@david_crispin Slowing down a plane is difficult event if they did identify the threat. All traffic - including ground - is coordinated via ATC. This will all come out in the first NTSB review, but there are only a couple of options.
Fire truck should have known what the active runway was (by instructions and lighting) and been told to hold and get clearance. ATC would then have directed them to proceed.
The facts already indicate (by the release audio with controller saying "I messed up") that they may have been incorrectly allowed to proceed across an active runway with an T/O operation in place.
Again, this needs to be confirmed by NTSB but it appears the likely cause.
Tragedy no matter what...
@david_crispin The other option was the fire truck either did not know, or proceeded without clearance. Again, all details need to be confirmed.