AnthropyMar 23

fedi, should I upgrade my 2013 Nissan Leaf AZE0 to 69kWh?

it'll cost a whole boatload of money (13k) but it's a load cheaper than any comparable new option that gets you ~70kwh worth of fresh battery

and I also really like the ZE0 for being a down to earth physical button loving car that just works and still does most of its stuff mechanically..

I could also get the 40kwh pack for basically half that, but that's also almost half the power, it'd still make driving longer distances kinda tense🫠

Show threadWouter 🇳🇱🇧🇷🇧🇪Mar 23
@anthropy I’ve been driving electric cars for ten years. One thing I’d definitely highlight is the improvement in efficiency. Today’s powertrains have really improved a lot. I have now a 70 kWh battery in a recent model car. Charging speeds, as well as features such as charging stops and pre-heating the battery before you start charging – these are all developments that aren’t included in your model. For example, I now charge at over 200 kW and have a range of 600 kilometres.
Show threadWouter 🇳🇱🇧🇷🇧🇪Mar 23
@anthropy If you’re going to be spending 13k, I’d seriously consider looking at a newer model. With more features.
Show threadAnthropyMar 23

@AccordingtoWouter hmm, aside from the heating in this one I think the kwh/100km is about the same as more modern cars? or did I miss something there? the only ones that report a lower kwh/100km that I could find were ones that included the use of the heater, which I don't usually use myself.

I don't know if I care super much about quickcharging most of the time, but I could always get a CCS to Chademo adapter if I need.

I kinda dislike the newer models for being so smartphone-y and online :(

Show threadWouter 🇳🇱🇧🇷🇧🇪Mar 23
@anthropy My first electric car had a 30 kWh net battery. That gave me an average range of 180 kilometres. The car after that had a 58 kWh net battery. That took me 400 kilometres. It was simply more efficient, even though it was bigger and heavier. My current car has a 70 kWh battery and goes 550 kilometres. So I do see an improvement in powertrains, battery management systems and efficiency. /1
Show threadWouter 🇳🇱🇧🇷🇧🇪
@anthropy Then there’s fast charging: my first car could only fast charge once because it didn’t have active cooling. The second time, on a long journey, the charging speed dropped significantly. The first charging session took 45 minutes to go from 10 to 80 per cent at a solid 40 kW. The second one could fast charge repeatedly without any limits. Because of active cooling. And that went from 10 to 80 per cent in 30 minutes at 100 kW. 2/
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Show threadWouter 🇳🇱🇧🇷🇧🇪Mar 23
@anthropy My current one goes from 10 to 80 per cent in 15 minutes at over 200 kW. I think those differences are quite significant! Not only are they more efficient, but they also charge much faster. Long journeys simply go a lot quicker.