Little Englanders foaming at the mouth about Islam in Britain, you sound like a 75 year old pished guy in a bowler hat and orange sash ranting in the pub about the looming threat of the papacy.

Ordinary Muslims you'd encounter in the UK are no more sinister and alien than ordinary Catholics. One day a week they maybe (or not) go to a fancy building to talk about God in a way that you don't connect with. Please try to be normal about that rather than let it eat your whole identity.

@petealexharris I find all religious people rather sinister!
For example, all the weird stuff they claim actually exists, their subservience to a patriarchal hierarchy, or the way they "other" people who aren't members of their particular hallucination club.
I find them all equally creepy.

@LillyHerself
That's a point of view.

But most people who are culturally part of a religion that's been around long enough to have settled in properly are completely normal and you wouldn't be able to identify any such behaviour relative to other similar religions, agnosticism or atheism in their everyday life.

Their decency and morality is a matter of personal character and understanding, only their explanations for why and how are different, and we're all wrong about a lot of stuff.

@petealexharris My own brother, plus one of my close childhood friends both converted to catholicism because of the "honey trap" that ideology imposes - catholic females won't marry you unless you convert.
I have had decades to observe what were once two open and progressive young men slowly adopt typical catholic materialism, a judgemental patriarchal attitude, gender stereotyping and prejudice against people perceived as outsiders.
It is very sad indeed.
@petealexharris Another thing I've noticed when having to deal with catholics is their fixation on what you do for a living. They don't look at people as individuals, they like to compartmentalise people according to profession. They like to place you in their little patriarchal hierarchical world view.
This is particularly annoying in healthcare settings. When someone is taking a medical history and suddenly you get asked what you do for a living and you can see them mentally ticking some box.
@LillyHerself
That's pretty odd, and not, as far as I can tell, anything to do with any of the doctrines of Roman Catholicism. For sure, cultures that occur alongside religious beliefs can be weird in their own ways too.