@skinnylatte Cars are an even bigger can of worms because they combine the psychological/identity marketing we've all grown to adore, the perverse incentives of sales commission, and the bundling cable companies use to force you to buy 5 or 10 channels when you really only want one (except in this case, you have to buy a bunch of stupid plastic trim bits to get access to a specific kind of paint, and it costs $9000 instead of $10/mo.). And of course stir it in with the same can of worms you get with consumer electronics because now your car is decked out with microphones and an eSIM, so they are most definitely listening to everything you say, and selling your data, with the added bonus of data about your droving behaviour so insurance companies can buy that data second hand, and either increase your premiums in the future, or just choose to not insure you at all (though by the time you get to that point, one could argue that—ignoring the dystopian overtones—they might just be providing a public service lol).