Jess👾Lukewarm take: TSA and Air Traffic Controllers need to be simply funded by an excise tax on airlines, and not subject to annual appropriations bills.
At the very least, put TSA under a lower controversy department like DOT so airports aren't subjected to being a political football as often.
jiub 
@JessTheUnstill that would be a good first step to dismantling the department of homeland security entirely
creating TSA was one of the only reasonable things that happened in the response to 9/11 (even tho a lot of their practices are security theater)
creating TSA was one of the only reasonable things that happened in the response to 9/11 (even tho a lot of their practices are security theater)
wyatt@jiub @JessTheUnstill disagree, tsa is evil shit that exists to make people miserable
@[email protected] @JessTheUnstill yeah i mean i know they suck, but the idea of having airport security handled by the federal government seems like a basically good one. it would just be nice to have less security theater bullshit like taking off your shoes or ridicuously low liquid limits
@jiub @JessTheUnstill disagree, it's a violation of privacy and now they can take away your passport if you have pronouns
@jiub @JessTheUnstill like, we operated for years without them but some planes get hijacked one time and now we've succeeded in making the flight experience even more miserable
@[email protected] @JessTheUnstill yeah, true
PetterOfCats@JessTheUnstill or maybe, get rid of TSA all together and stop bombing people creating the "terror" situation to begin with.
Also pay tin pushers more and let them unionize.
sorry...just "have you tried going to the left"? It is just so frustrating every time i see right wing policies piling on to fix the thing they broke to begin with.
Kevin Karhan 
@JessTheUnstill the #USA needs to fucking take a chill pill either way.
- Being treated worse as legal entrant than a serial murderer in a prison in Germany is just a major dick move.
- And to add insult to injuriy the #US is the only nation notorious for doing vibes-based immigrations with neither recourse nor appeals regardless of existing visa!
@kkarhan TSA isn't the same as CBP (the ones who manage customs). TSA is just the ones who do a simple "does your ID match your ticket" and baggage checking.
@JessTheUnstill I know.
TSA are the assholes that are harrassing people sexually tocthe point that I've yet to hear any non - US-citizen that wasn't mistreated.
@kkarhan Regardless, reorganize under a department whose goal is going to be to make air travel work will be better than being under a department whose goal is that everyone is a criminal until proven otherwise.
@JessTheUnstill precisely…
That's why everywhere else incentives are pushed to make the workflow as frictionless as possible for passengers.
Riley S. Faelan@kkarhan Technically, vibes-based immigration is also a thing in some African countries. The difference is, in Africa, when there's doubt, you typically pass the vibes check by passing a bribe.
@riley @JessTheUnstill I know, and OFC "Passport Privilegue" is very real so a white person from the #EU usually is getting waived through as long as they ain't on some "shit list" to not be let in...
- It would be gaslighting to npt acknowledge that being the case:
- With the one and only non - On-Arrival visa I've ever had to obtain getting rubberstamped within a 15' no-appointment affair (due to being someplace for 22 instead of 21 days), and basically being just a formality (with no questions asked beyond proof of return ticket)...
@kkarhan I have flown to Serbia on an EU ID card once. (Had forgotten to update my passport before it expired.) The immigration official was unhappy about not having anything to stamp, and took some time to consult with his manager, but I got in, and I got out.
@riley @JessTheUnstill Same with like Egypt: They just issued an Tourist card to stamp in.
- Besides, places like Serbia have a vested interest in keeping a positive impression.
@kkarhan That vested interest is a big part of how privilege works.
@riley @JessTheUnstill yeah, I know...
@JessTheUnstill In a circus budgeting culture, it'd make more sense to establish a persisting default budget, so fights and circus would happen only to changes, so when no changes are made, status quo would persist.
rgegriff (On a new server)@JessTheUnstill sensible take
@JessTheUnstill This applies to ATC. TSA just needs to be abolished. It serves no real purpose. Its original purpose was to pacify people who were too anxious to fly after the unique and never-again-feasible events of 2001-09-11, but it's much more cost-effective to handle flying anxiety by offering complimentary Xanax to anxious flyers. (Well, anxious passengers. The pilots probably shouldn't take benzos before piloting without some thorough medical assesment first.)
@JessTheUnstill Kinda like it's done in the #EU and espechally #Germany, where #AirportFees cover mandatory expenses like #Security.
- In fact, #Airports are responsible on their own for #security and Federal Police are merely stationed as mandate per juristiction and because they absorbed fmr. Federal Border Guard which do immigrations.
- Private Security is being used almost exclusively and those companies usually get paid per personnel hours and passengers they process, so there's financial incentive to make security as efficient and frictionless as possible.
