Ok, so let me try to summarise today's verdict by the Federal Court of Justice, Germany's highest civil law court @BGH_Bund :

Globally active πŸ‡©πŸ‡ͺ automakers cannot be held legally accountable for causing excessive CO2 emissions #Climate because:

* Germany's obligations under Paris do not imply liability by automakers for their contribution to prospective exceedance of targets

Cont'd

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https://www.bundesgerichtshof.de/SharedDocs/Pressemitteilungen/DE/2026/2026054.html

Der Bundesgerichtshof - Presse : Pressemitteilungen aus dem Jahr 2026 - Kein Anspruch auf vorzeitiges "Verbrenner-Aus"

* the persons bringing the case aren't impacted in their personal rights by the economic activities of polluting companies because there are no legally binding limits to their contribution to a CO2 budget
* a limit to cumulative emissions is confirmed but cannot legally be broken down to limit major polluting companies
* future drastic reductions of freedom due to climate heating are not relevant because legally permissable emissions cannot be held against a manufacturer

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We've always said it: the diffusion of responsibility to other levels is a deep flaw of the architecture of climate politics, allowing everybody to claim how committed they are without actually having to be committed. "We can't act unless all the world's countries act" is being replayed one level down.

Companies aren't responsible, only the government as a whole. Cities aren't, provinces aren't - only the whole country, somehow. So me? No, we can't be obliged. (And nobody else either.)

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@W_Lucht i just saw your post and had to smile, even though there is nothing to smile about here - just because you used almost exactly the same wording as I did this morning! 😊
@pvonhellermannn
Yeah, it's so obvious and frightening how "meanwhile ..." key things are now: human rights, Earth, the future, justice, social cohesion, learning, empathy ... I think it's a consequence of the neoliberal brainwashing that replaced social values with economic growth obsession rather than well-structured meaning. That is entering its authoritarian phase, using nationalism, supremacy and war. We hoped for a governed transition, but it'll be more chaotic - where to?
@W_Lucht Maybe some people feel empowered because they "destroy the Earth"? What hybris, only the sun can and will destroy the earth, we simply deprive ourselves and some animal and plant species of their livelihood. The earth can't care less.

@W_Lucht @BGH_Bund With the Climate Protection Act, Germany’s climate protection targets were made legally binding for the first time in 2019. Both sectors, transport and building / construction missed all targets.

Then they did what Politicians do!

July 15th, 2024: The binding annual sectoral targets in Germany’s Climate Protection Act were abolished! Instead of fixed CO2 budgets for sectors such as transportation or buildings, a bloody multi-year, cross-sectoral overall approach now applies.

@W_Lucht
facit: only countries with dictatorship are able to restrict effectively C02 limits
China is best example for it and US is best for breaking all limits.
However democracy & capitalism cannot be fenced in for destroying nature.

@BGH_Bund

@enigma
I wouldn't put it like that at all. The majority of people know and accept that climate politics are necessary. It does not oppose, for the large part, listening to science. But the public debate is shaped by economic and power interests deeply intertwined with politics - from media messaging to propaganda campaigns to straight economic muscling. Which means, imo: our systems, especially the economy, have to be democratised more. Democracy - is not a finished project. It has to evolve.

@W_Lucht @enigma

Second that.
Sadly, time has already run out. Oh, and mankind is heading in the opposite direction.

@enigma
Denmark is doing pretty well. Of course, technically it's a monarchy, but I guess, since we don't buy the "republic" part in "CPR", we still count Denmark as democracy, right? ;)

@W_Lucht @BGH_Bund

@ditol @W_Lucht @BGH_Bund Who talked about Denmark, Iceland or Norway ? Or any other small Country without a heavy industrial past ?
If some clever germans compare apples with pears same way they also make me laugh ? Maybe because you still think Denmark is a big nation dominating the rest of Scandinavia incl north Germany ? πŸ«£πŸ˜‰

@enigma
Altona skal være dansk.

@W_Lucht @BGH_Bund

@ditol @W_Lucht @BGH_Bund People that cannot get the size of their country right e.g Russians always have their very special problems in politics . Not only climate rules .

@enigma
What the heck are you talking about?

@W_Lucht @BGH_Bund

@ditol @W_Lucht @BGH_Bund Please go voting in DK next days . Then let’s see what’s next πŸ˜‰

@enigma
What the heck are you talking about?

@W_Lucht @BGH_Bund

@ditol @W_Lucht @BGH_Bund Since you don’t know that tomorrow the new Folketing will be elected by all danish we should end it here. I need sb from Danmark who is up to date politically , sorry 😞

@enigma @ditol

@enigma I enjoy interactions and opinions, this is what this place is for, but please don't troll on my threads.