Plane and ground vehicle collide at New York's LaGuardia airport halting flights

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cy01g522ww4o

Two pilots dead after plane and ground vehicle collide at New York's LaGuardia Airport

The plane, arriving from Montreal, collided with a firefighting vehicle responding to a separate incident.

That's a huge amount of damage even at 24mph. It's crazy how that could happen though. Will be interesting to see the full report.

Very unlikely it was 24mph…The entire cockpit is gone.

(Though some of the major damage may have happened while deplaning the passengers)

On other hand planes are really not designed to be crashed into things. Only for limited impacts. So we might not have right comparison for relatively thin and aimed to be light structure being impacted by bulkier object.

It looks like that is based on the last recorded speed from flightradar24[1] which was 21kts(24mph). The previous data points were 11kts, and 58 kts(the last point before the track deviates off the runway). I do think it is likely that the collision occurred at a speed faster than 24mph.

edit: Looking into this a bit more it looks like the plane came to a stop around crossing E while the emergency vehicle was crossing at D(based on ATC recordings). Using the following map as reference[2], the 58kts point was around E, while the previous recorded point which was just before D was 114kts.

[1] https://www.flightradar24.com/data/flights/ac8646#3ede6c39

[2] https://www.flightaware.com/resources/airport/LGA/APD/AIRPOR...

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https://www.avherald.com/h?article=536bb98e

> Captain and first officer are reported to have died in the accident, two fire fighters on board of the truck received serious injuries, 13 passengers received injuries.

The Aviation Herald

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Was curious if ground vehicles at airports also use transponders to communicate position to the radio tower, and it turns out the FAA put out a report last year on potential solutions to avoid this exact situation:

https://www.faa.gov/airports/airport_safety/certalerts/part_...

I saw the first post about this on /r/flying and /r/aviation 5 hours ago and legacy media is only started reporting it in the last hour or so

And so much of the legacy media info is wrong. It’s strange because a lot of the primary sources are public.

This is a good overview so far:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8vokLcNNGCM

AIR CANADA CRJ-900 Collision in NYC La Guardia Airport

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It's hardly worth checking with the legacy media anymore. Really, why bother?
I have seen a lot of first posts on social media which have been wrong