dudeThe Risk Too Many People Are Taking With Ozempic
AlkThis article boils down to “be careful, you might get a tummy ache” and ignores the fact that glp1 is saving millions of lives from heart disease, stroke, and other obesity-related issues.
Did you read the article? It is warning about over-prescribing to people who are not at risk of heart disease, stroke, and other obesity-related issues.
I think it’s well understood that people who produce glp1 correctly can still be obese and need weight loss and these drugs help with that. That’s the whole point of the drug. To provide more glp1 than is needed to lose weight easily.
these drugs help with that
or they cause gastrointestinal conditions in these people, resulting in the weight loss (and malnutrition) that is a symptom of the new condition rather than the drug itself.
Dieting is literally effective 100% of the time, thanks to Newton and his second law and all that.
Sticking to it is another thing entirely - but let’s not pretend words don’t have meaning anymore
Your oversimplification of complex biological processes is mindbogglingly ignorant. Please find a study that shows a diet that produces results that are over a 10% reduction in body mass and with results that last for over two years. If you can’t do even that miniscule baseline, if you can’t find one diet that has actual scientific macking, please stfu about subjects you know next to nothing about and have no evidence for. I know it’s really difficult for you to understand concepts that can’t be boiled down to a single sentence, but let’s try this one time, okay?
Energy in = energy out is Newton’s law, not mine. You’re arguing about something else it seems
So couldn’t find one?
A law of thermodynamics?
Are you trying to have a fight? Because lol
Yeah, I want evidence that’s weight loss is as simple as repeating that phrase that without understanding it. I don’t think people quoting it a) know what it means b) understand biology, psychology, hormones, disease. I’m tired of idiots going unchallenged on their dumb ideas.
If you eat less you will weigh less. That is always true because of the laws of the universe.
I don’t make the rules
I don’t need people to eat less, I just need folks to understand that eating less is the answer.
The how is irrelevant to me
Everyone knows eating less is the answer. We have for decades. And yet, the world is obese. You’re not revealing anything new or revolutionary. Society has accepted this as truth long ago, and now we are tackling a different problem - how to keep as many people as possible realistically able to lose weight and reduce the risk of heart disease. Having the willpower to eat less isn’t the answer for 30+% of the population.
I’m not trying to reveal anything, I’m just stating facts and people’s emotions are flaring up for reasons I will never know. This whole back and forth is just so painfully weird.
Why do you think everyone in here is so emotional? Why are laws of thermodynamics so emotionally hot for all the people in this thread?
I am not talking about obesity, nor was I ever, for some strange reason that’s where you keep steering. Why do you want to talk about fat people, when I’m discussing energy conservation?
This whole conversation is about obesity. The article is about losing weight with ozempic, which is to treat obesity. My top comment was about obesity. Everyone else is talking about obesity. The reason you’re getting pushback from everyone is because you’re purposely ignoring the topic at hand and arguing pedantics about energy conservation when nobody else is talking about that, or cares about that. You’re preaching to the choir. Everyone knows you can lose weight by eating fewer calories than you burn. It’s common sense. But that’s not what the whole discussion is about.
I’m also not sure what you’re referring to about getting emotional, except for maybe that one guy who told someone to STFU.
We agree that yes, the laws of thermodynamics exist and you are correct. Now how about you come and discuss what everyone else is discussing and contribute something to the thread? If you don’t feel like discussing obesity and real-world weight loss tactics, that’s perfectly fine. I’m sure there are plenty of other posts and threads talking about thermodynamics that you can join.
FINALLY you get it. My whole point was that thermodynamics is always correct, and if you reduce what goes in that’s the only way to make an organic system lose mass.
Thank you for finally seeing my point. This isn’t at all about weight loss, it’s about emotions for you people.
Makes no sense to me
Again, there are no emotions running high here. From the beginning you misunderstood the point, didn’t listen to anyone in the conversation, and failed to admit you were wrong.
Nobody was ever arguing with you claiming that thermodynamics didn’t apply. Every single person here understands that thermodynamics applies. You are wrong because you came in arguing something that nobody else was talking about. We were talking about apples and you came in here, emotions flaring, yelling about oranges.
This quite literally is all about weight loss. It’s not about physics or thermodynamics. It’s about weight loss in the real world, and I believe even after reading this comment you will still refuse to acknowledge this.
Agree to disagree. Have the day you deserve out there