should i actually learn the russian keyboard layout for typing cyrillic, or should i just use яверты (us qwerty, but each letter is replaced with a phonetically similar russian letter)

i'm already using qwerty phonetic inputs for japanese and chinese, but those are common.

i cannot help but read з as "russian letter three".

especially when majuscule they are hard to distinguish: З vs 3

@artemist that’s a backwards epsilon that

@artemist idk about ergonomics, but I’ve only ever seen russian speakers use йцукен. I use qwerty for en/de and йцукен for ru/ua. I’m not great at it, but my touch typing speed in йцукен is ~half of my qwerty speed

also I think 3 vs З is usually just figured out from context. flat top Ʒ definitely helps with this

i suppose i do try fairly hard to stay with us qwerty when possible, e.g. i type chinese and japanese with qwerty-based imes, and i type german with qwerty (plus compose on caps lock for ß, ä, ö, and ü)
@artemist hmm, why not A-s, A-a, etc for ß, ä, etc respectively? I don’t think German has enough symbols to warrant compose key?

@nrab US keyboards don't have AltGr.

Also, I use the compose key for more than that, e.g. çáéíóúàèìòùñðþ–—°≈

@artemist that’s fair enough, if you can use a single layout for ~all languages then it’s definitely worth. I’m too polish brained and I already switch my layout per language I use so I never got into the compose key community

@nrab i'm AMERICAN so we don't acknowledge the existence of other languages

(okay, schools do require accents for the practically mandatory spanish or french classes from age 11, but i don't remember how they were supposed to be typed. i think i got into the compose key so i could type macrons in age 14 latin class.)

@artemist I’m so sorry for you I hope you can recover quickly 
@nrab the american part or the latin part?
@nrab i forgot most of my latin and i'm trying to improve on the american part, i already have another citizenship
@artemist that’s great to hear, I’m happy your recovery is going well
@artemist artemist on her way to learn every script on planet earth

@nrab i realized i already knew like half of cyrillic so i might as well learn the rest

also it's useful for navigating russian websites, even when translated.

@nrab anyway, the only ones i can really read are latin and greek. i'm awful at kana and only know a few hundred hanzi at most.