The Engineer Who Tried to Put Age Verification Into Linux

https://www.sambent.com/the-engineer-who-tried-to-put-age-verification-into-linux-5/

The lasting damage was knowing it could happen at all: that a single contributor with no stated organizational backing could submit compliance infrastructure for surveillance law directly into the software that boots your computer, get it merged by two Microsoft employees, and have the creator of systemd personally block the removal.

The Engineer Who Tried to Put Age Verification Into Linux

Dylan, useful idiot with commit access, pushed age verification PRs to systemd, Ubuntu & Arch, got 2 Microslop employees to merge it, called it 'hilariously pointless' in the PR itself, then watched Lennart personally block the revert. Unpaid compliance simp.

Sam Bent

@Khrys

I don't understand what the fuss is about. This is exactly the right way to comply with that law: an optional birth date field. You don't want to have to submit an idea to your OS or implement facial recognition, and you certainly don't want to tie account creation to external services for those things, but now parents can fill in the birth date for their kids, and everybody else can ignore it. This kind of thing needs to be in the hands of parents, not external companies.

So I don't really see the problem here.

@mcv @Khrys Never heard of a slippery slope? It's a longstanding tradition in our legal system. Start with something that seems innocuous enough. Then when enough people have been lulled into complacency by arguments like yours, the law changes into something onerous and we're stuck dealing with that.

It's very basic stuff.

@liquor_american @Khrys

Di you understand that we're talking about an optional field on your own, local computer that you control, and which already has similar fields for your real name, your email and your location?

I understand people are wary to paranoid about privacy, and you should be, but it's misplaced here. This is the wrong battle to be fighting. There are many worthy battles out there that could use this energy.

@mcv @Khrys Yes I understand what the initial implementation is supposed to look like. It's a very cute little baby cat that surely no reasonable person could have a problem with.

Oops, now it's been 18 months and we have a very hungry leopard and we wish we hadn't been taken in by how harmless that kitten seemed at the time.