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saying "sideloading programs" in a linux desktop context is wild, please fucking don't

there's not supposed to be one and only "official" loading, where everything else is "side" to it

it's called installing programs
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Show threadφ11h ago
@navi phonebrain is taking over
Show threadAmber 11h ago
@[email protected] side loading on ubuntu via apt ​​
Show threadφ11h ago
@puppygirlhornypost2 @navi thats what ppa is for
Show threadEfi (nap pet) 🦊💤11h ago
@navi im sideloading games from steam
Show threadIván Strider Markov11h ago
@[email protected]

ive always thought of it as just installing a program from a repo that isnt managed by your distro
Show threadLate Night Defender 🏳️‍⚧️  11h ago
@[email protected] sideloading on my Fedora Silverblue by rpm-ostree installing something
Show thread🌸 Ⓐnarkitty lumi-nhac  11h ago
@navi the term "sideloading" implies there is some authority deciding which applications are good or bad

this is very dangerous, there should never be such an authority
Show threadarihi       11h ago
@lumi @navi canonical's snap team would like to have a word with you
Show threadnachtpfoetchen2️⃣11h ago
@lumi @navi i thought it was at the start the term for installing an application via adb instead of doing it via the android store or on device apk. And there it makes a lot of sense because usually the laptop is physically next to the phone and you are installing apps from the side.
Show thread🌸 Ⓐnarkitty lumi-nhac  11h ago
@nachtpfoetchen @navi at first it was, but then it got morphed to fit the narrative of the tech industry

and it's now being used to justify there being some authority that will protect the users by stating whether an application is good or bad
Show thread2something11h ago
@lumi @[email protected] @nachtpfoetchen

The most absurd use I've seen is U.S.-based tech journalists who say it's "sideloading" for Chinese Android users to install apps from the non-Play app store that is the default on their phone. I.e. if you buy a Xiaomi phone in China and install apps from the Xiaomi app store, some U.S. journalists will call that "sideloading" because it's not from Google Play.
Show threadnachtpfoetchen2️⃣11h ago
@2something @lumi @navi so it‘s mainly managers and journalists using technical terms wrongly. So the terms loose their meaning or get ambiguous in their meaning, so people stop using them for technical descriptions and make up new terms until the cycle repeats.
Show threadtusharhero11h ago
@navi the dangerous side loading app called guix|nix
Show thread2something11h ago
@[email protected] The next updates to both Android and Ubuntu will rename your Downloads folder "Sideloads" because it holds stuff that wasn't installed from Google Play or the Snap Store.
Show threadLaurent Bercot11h ago
@navi the term should never be used, even on a phone
Show threadhazel 10h ago
@navi sideloading games on my sideloading games launcher installed using sideloaded package manager that has been itself sideloaded by a sideloaded operating system that runs on a sideloaded kernel booted from a sideloaded bootloader on a sideloaded computer
Show threadRaven Luni10h ago
@navi Who be saying that? Point them out for shaming
Show threadquotequack10h ago
@navi
þey are prob a mobile only user cause imagine smn calls installing windows apps from exe sideloading? þey have to have never touched a pc ever
Show threadKasanwa-Solane are hugging its Octo Friend10h ago

@navi me over here sideloading on NixOS /j

From a perspective of installing something on NixOS, it is in fact so much easier to do it using nixpkgs if its already packaged than any other way; IMO installing things on NixOS outside of using nixpkgs is more friction than "sideloading" is on Android, while using nixpkgs and the Play Store are similar amounts of friction

Show threadineemio5h ago
@navi imho. there is an 'official" and recommended loading which is your distro's traditional package manager and its default repos
Show threadineemio5h ago

@navi eg debian defends this to some extent https://wiki.debian.org/DontBreakDebian

On Debian installing software from random websites is a bad habit. It's always better to use software from the official Debian repositories if at all possible.

DontBreakDebian - Debian Wiki

Show threadPaul Black4h ago
@ineemio @navi So flatpak is sideloading then?
Show threadineemio4h ago

@Techwizz @navi by that logic, yes it is

not to say that flathub is unsafe (i know it has a great review process), but i would consider it sideloading relatively to your host distro