I am quite keen on the idea of an electric car.

I am less keen on the idea of a car which spies on me.

I have an electric bicycle, which I love, and use as often as I can. But I am looking here for a car.

I kind of like the old Nissan Leaf, and it might *just* fit the bill, range wise. But I've also read various concerns. So I umm and aaah about them.

Newer electric cars leave me with a sense of "nice car you got there. Shame if we changed something about it or spied on you".

@neil The thing with the old leaf is they have a different charging socket (Chademo) that’s harder to find chargers for.

I’m really glad we didn’t buy one on that basis alone. We were in a toss up between a long-range Leaf and a Hyundai Ioniq.

We are really happy with the Ioniq.

It’s probably spying on us.

@ross
pro for the ioniq: no ota-connection to the manufacturer.
@neil