[object Object]Mar 22

the thing you must understand now is that regardless of their stated views, liars like Bryan Lunduke, Lennart Poettering, and Dylan M Taylor have demonstrated by their actions that they all have the same goal: a fascist software ecosystem that operates against our interests and exploits but does not empower our labor. it is the destruction of FOSS as we know it.

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Show thread[object Object]Mar 22

Bryan Lunduke has always treated FOSS like a right-wing political project. he has also always misrepresented his goals as technical ones. the current moment is very convenient for him: he is using the valid need for an alternative to systemd to funnel people into fascist-controlled software ecosystems like Devuan and Artix. under no circumstances will Lunduke ever acknowledge the many init alternatives and distributions run by marginalized leftists. this is the game he has played for years.

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Show thread[object Object]Mar 22
systemd has always been a lever of power; there’s no other reason to create an ecosystem of its shape. the person who grasps that lever is Lennart Poettering, and it always has been. I don’t need to write much on this; I watched the “oh shit” moment last week when systemd started accepting slop code, and again when an age verification mechanism was imposed on every systemd user and distro on Poettering’s final word. this was always the social structure on offer, enforced by a rigid ecosystem.
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Show threadDualtronicMar 22
@zzt When we used to shout this off the rooftops, people were all, "no no, see, it's *progress*! there are Good Reasons(tm)!"
Show threadSteven ReedMar 22
@felix @zzt I was one of those, I'm afraid to say. Now rapidly reconsidering my positions and wondering if I'm too old to learn a BSD :(
Show threadDualtronic
@srtcd424 I've been considering a switch to BSD for years, but it's hard after a quarter century on Linux. Thankfully there are still a few distros that managed to keep the systemd alien parasite at bay.
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Show threadSteven ReedMar 22
@felix for me, going back to something non-declarative after nixos though would feel like a huge step backwards. I don't want to get sucked into ansible or anything equally icky in order to make my stuff reproducible :(
Show threadDanielMar 22

@srtcd424 @felix haha, lately I've been wondering if I could run liminix (uses s6-rc) on my laptop. But right now I can barely run it on my router so I guess I should fix that first.

(As you probably already knew, a lot of nixpkgs works just fine without nixos, it's the modules/services that are coupled to the init system/service manager)

Show threadSiroj42Mar 22
@srtcd424 You could try Guix. It's similar in principle to NixOS (but with Guile scheme instead of the Nix language) and it doesn't use systemd, instead it uses shepherd which is itself written in Guile. Package availability is pretty good, although the default package repo excludes non-free packages. Service availability is more limited I'd say, but on the upside, a home-manager equivalent and a deployment tool are included by default.
Show threadjmcMar 22
@felix @srtcd424 give Chimera Linux a try: built on musl libc, with BSD-based userland tools, and with Dinit as init system
Show threadDualtronicMar 22
@jmc @srtcd424 I just might, thanks! Been looking at Chimera twice or thrice lately, and their recent statements regarding current developments are very encouraging.