Viking_HippieShitlib magical wand nonsense 🙄
archonetWhatever this person is smoking, I want some. I’m already self-medicating with as much pot as I can afford to get through this assclown fuckery we call an administration; I want/need stronger drugs that enable this kind of magical thinking and optimism.
So… What will happen?
Easy to poo poo so what’s the true true?
The truth is those “career experts” are now long gone. The ones who needed to continue working have either gone into industry or left for greener shores. The ones who could retire, did (a good chunk of them also having left the country). It’s a billion times easier to stop doing science and turn off all the equipment, than it is to turn it back on. Even the agencies that are hiring again, are having trouble - my friend is a PhD physicist interviewing for Los Alamos right now, and normally, there would be HUNDREDS of applicants for these government positions.
They got 60 applications for two jobs, total.
Nobody wants to work for the government when we’ve just learned some billionaire friend of the President can fire you just because Grok told him you were worthless.
This viewpoint is flawed and dangerously naive.
The damage is not as superficial as a name or a building. The USA allowed this to happen. The checks and balances that were supposed to be built into the system have failed. The United States of America, it’s government, and it’s whole social structure is no longer reliable. It does not end with the removal from power or even the death of Trump.
the checks and balances are working pretty well but there’s obviously not enough wrt the president
the DOJ, CDC and other departments going back to normal will do an enormous amount for the country
that and a nuremburg trials for trump and all of the others. laws will have to be changed and be applied retroactively
You’re fucking dreaming, bud.
The checks and balances have failed. He owns the supreme court. They’ve already handed him victories against hard fought progress that America worked for decades to get.
The religious nut cases are in charge. They’ve already own the media and they’re taking the internet. They are coming to take away your computer and make you pay to talk to their AI machine. You don’t own anything anymore, it’s all rented, it’s all locked down from being repaired. They want to jail nonconformists. They’re a demonizing food safety and vaccine practices, and motherfuckers are buying it.
The climate is changing and they know it and they refuse to stop doing the things they are doing in order to try and stop it. Instead, they stock up on oil and bombs so they can invade territory they know will be available to try and grow food. And notherfuckers are cheering it on.
Why’s the US want Canada? why’s the US want Greenland? Because in 50 years, in 30 years…in 20 years? It’ll be the fucking bread basket. And motherfuckers don’t even realize why they the cheering it on.
Why’s the US want Venezuela? Why’s the US want Iran? Because we need oil all our machines run on oil and we can’t power our wars and our oppression without them. And motherfuckers love their “Hemi’s” and they’re cheering it on.
Why’s the US pushing so hard for AI? Why’s the US pushing so hard for online ID verification? They want to track us all. Make us confirm like good little brainwashed Godly worker bees. Find and root out the “rot” of dissent, and motherfuckers are cheering them on.
This doesn’t go all away with Gavin Newsom.
I’m not kidding when I say it would take almost half a century to restore the damage that has been done to the US and global order…
You are a bit doomer there and honestly, I dunno man. I think it’s maybe worse than that.
If you have the reigns of social media and the news, you could do it in six months or less.
Are people out there really this fucking blind to reality?
The United States is COOKED. We are literally the psychotic Christian Pariah States now.
No one is dealing with us because no one knows when Trump 3 might be. He’ll, TRUMP HIMSELF MIGHT DO TRUMP 3, AGAINST THE LAW.
Do you know what happens in a nation when the law no longer matters? Do you want your nation to be dependent on whatever happens to that nation next?
It is fucking OVER for the United States.
Nahhhh. She’ll be right!
AnUnusualRelicThat’s assuming it ever happens, which is far from certain.
and other jokes we can tell ourselves, Volume II
SternRemember when we repealed the patriot act and got rid of the TSA? Or put the guardrails back in place after that big crash? No, the other crash, the one that happened after the guardrails were removed the second time.
Sarah Valentine (she/her)To add: Remember when grocery prices went down?
You just showed the world that laws don’t matter. You can’t (or won’t) enforce your own laws when a government goes rogue. How do you expect someone believes you when you say that?
Those rehirings won’t be cheap either
mannycalaveraWho said the left can’t meme?
That’s not how it works.
In many cases trust is broken and it might never be restored. People won’t come back if they know they can be vilified and fired again in a few years. Allies? We will never think of the US as a reliable partner again. Not in my life time.
Americans elected a psycho, a literal psycho. The only thing I will remember is that it will likely happen again.
whyNotSquirrelAmericans elected a psycho, a literal psycho.
RE-elected*
they elected him twice! It’s not like they didn’t know what was coming, they were okay with it
Exactly. They were cool with it, even more so they wanted this.
Cluster B personality disorder. Malignant narcissist.
The kind of parent kids go no contact with, former spouses have to take restraining orders out on, and not by any definition trustworthy or healthy.
Defined by living in a false reality, gaslighting deniers of that reality, love bombing people who play to them, and incapable of accepting accountability for any act.
All of this clearly visible to anyone with eyes and firing neurons.
And yet.
Watch out people, another psycho.
skulblakaI don’t understand how it isn’t more obvious to everyone that the American people at large literally did not elect him, the election was stolen, Trump and Elon Musk both were on national television bragging about how they’ve done so, multiple times.
Do not ever trust the US government for anything, ever - you’re completely correct there - but please don’t get the impression that the majority of citizens are over here cheering and rubbing their hands together in sick, evil glee. We are hostages of the owner class. What is happening, happens without our consent or approval, and those who express their disapproval are shot dead.
There is a small percentage of very uneducated and unwell people who do support the actions of the American regime and they’re being hugely signal boosted by said regime as a way of whitewashing what is going on. If they can get one person to express approval and then put that sound bite onto Fox News, then suddenly you can have a thousand people express approval. Once you have a thousand people on board the misinformation is now self supporting, it’ll spread on its own.
A small subset of Americans are cartoonishly evil, and surprise, it’s primarily the robber barons just like the last time. A larger subset of Americans are criminally underinformed about their situation, either through their own lack of interest or through targeted efforts to destroy their ability to learn the truth (defunding of educational programs, defunding NPR, burning books, etc). The largest subset of Americans are just scared. Everything that has defined the backbone of domestic life in the USA in our lifetimes has been destroyed and it is not coming back. People who speak up about this publicly are disappeared or executed. Some of them, you hear about on the news after. Most, you won’t.
I have such an unbelievable amount of respect for citizens in other countries who are willing and able to stand up for their rights. I always thought the US would be capable of the same. And in some ways, we are. In most of the ways that matter, though, we’re scared little children, whose fear and ignorance is being amplified and preyed on by those who would take advantage of it, and the average person is either blind to it or afraid of the consequences of standing up to it alone.
Please, hate what we’ve done, hate who leads us, but don’t make the mistake of thinking that regular citizens are approving of this.
KelvarCherry [They/Them]USAmerica - you are going to have a population of fundamentally broken people after this. High schoolers watched their friends disappear. Children in daycare saw their teachers dragged out. Relatives and neighbors were dragged out of their homes. Stores were raided. People are dead; And lives will forever be changed.
This chaos creates trauma, resentment, distrust, hatred. Because in the end – we let it happen. The people of this nation let this terror happen. We let tens of thousands be massacred. We let our stores and community homes be raided.
And it was done through our core infrastructure. The people were trafficked through federal agencies. Our three branches of government worked together to make this happen. Our corporations and their technology let this happen. Google. Amazon. Microsoft. Apple. They all have had a role. Our neighbors voted for this, cheered for this.
If the next candidate—be it Democrat or Republican—wants to close the book on all this and broadcast platitudes of Democracy and Compassion… whatever candidate(s) those are, I hope they fail.
Ah, to be young and dream!
RivalarrivalTrump will be “leaving office” when JD Vance exercises the 25th amendment in January. Very little is going to change when Trump leaves office. We’ll get significantly fewer incomprehensible rants, but that’s the only major change we’re going to get.
CherryNew Congress is seated on January 3rd. Vance won’t have Congressional support before then.
If the VP completes less than half of the president’s term, they remain eligible for two full terms of their own. January 20th 2027 marks the half way point of Trump’s term.
JensSpahnpastaThe world knows that it is not only Trump. We know that there is a broad election basis supporting that policy, that there are billionaires pushing it and that the whole GOP is totally in line with it. We witnessed how Biden tried to fix the damage of Trump1 and then we got an even worse Trump2.
So the world is trying to get out of their dependence on the USA and that will go on, because there will always be the threat of another trumplike president coming from the MAGA swamp
G3NI5Y5If such a magical thing as an honourable transfer of power could happen, it’s pretty rare for fascist policies to be rescinded. Seeing the dems as they are, I almost think they would be disappointed as they will have to pretend to do policy again.
Even if this is true and completed it wont be enough for people and governments to trust americans again. I’m not sure what could be done to go back to the way it was. I believe those days are gone for good and we are all sailing
into a different and much less
friendly and trusting global system, just when our climate is about to whack us hard.
domusalteraWhat Trump actually did was hold up a mirror to America so they could see how rotten everything actually was behind the illusion. A painful, humbling lesson but one that has a chance to actually address the rot. There is a future where we all learn from this and move forward after he’s gone in a positive way. Removing tumors is dangerous and painful but it’s the only hope of survival. The amount of damage doesn’t matter if the lessons learnt lead to meaningful progress.
The international community will never trust the US again. Every shred of soft power and trust in the US is gone, and nobody will make an agreement that isn’t purely short-term transactional for decades to come.
Constitutional reform at minimum is required, preferably a sweeping change to how their voting and districting works.
And make voting day a fucking holiday ffs.
ZacryonThis has two problems, because it assumes:
It has been looking like Trump is going for a dictatorship for a long time and things are getting increasingly worse recently.
There is a third problem. It assumes talented people are will return to jobs where they can be fired at the whim of a presidents.
westo232Democrats. We take two steps forward after Conservatives take 3 steps back.
The world will move to using Euro or Yuan for oil trade and US economy will be in the shitter
mhz (ex lemm.ee)I can see that happening now, i can even imagine that one of the objectives of this US-Israel war is to keep the middle east from seeking BRICS allies and not re-considering the petrodollar
Iran already let one tanker through because they paid for the oil in Yuan
I’m hoping EU jumps on this with Euro
I explicitly do not want to fix this system. To attempt to fix this system, within the system, would take literally a century. It is inconceivable to me that we could get past the blatant corruption and bureaucratic rot that is at every level of our government.
The only answer is to strip it to the foundation, and then dig that up as well. We need a new constitution, a new Congress of states, perhaps the states should go as well, to be restructured for the new world that we are entering. Florida could be literally underwater year-round by the end of the century. The southwest will be out of water as the Colorado river dries up. The midwest could very easily slip into another dust bowl due to heat stress on grasses. We need to account for these things when we design the new social contract, because this one is dead.
When I have talked to them about some of these things, they largely agree that we need to reign in big business when you explain it to them. They don’t like banks. They do like billionaires or think they are smart.
Basically, they would most likely be, in part, in favor of it. We just need to ensure that they do not have an outsized influence on the decisions that would come after.
It’s nice to want things.
Ok, but this is all Day 1 shit. What are you actually going to do to improve people’s lives?
Shit Libs: We will unite Americans and ensure all Americans are united for a United America again!
MrsilkwormAs a European,
It will take a lot more than these, along with plenty of time and pain, to regain the trust of the rest if the world.
Mostly it will require a turn, in behalf of the USA, to a functioning democracy, with checks and balances, a functioning senate and house of representatives, a functioning justice, a functioning administration, a working economy, fair trade and so on.
I m not very optimistic that the USA will do it in my lifetime if ever.