Unsubscribed from [email protected] due to authoritarian propaganda - Lemmy.zip

Soon after I joined Lemmy a few years ago, I searched for communities based on my interests and subscribed to the ones with the highest numbers of users to ensure they are active. Sometimes I joined multiple, but then saw that some people post the same thing to more than one, cluttering my feed, so I left the smaller ones. It’s only after my community ban from [email protected] [/c/[email protected]] for disagreeing about Ukraine [https://lemmy.zip/post/39086280] that I was told about MeanwhileOnGrad, learning exactly what “the tankie triad” means and why big Lemmy instances have defederated from those. Lemmy.ml [http://Lemmy.ml], where the ML probably stands for Marxist-Leninist, seems to have been defederated by fewer, possibly because it’s run by the creator of Lemmy, Dessalines. Nevertheless, there is evidence [https://lemmy.zip/search?q=dessalines&communityId=14251] of Dessalines holding the same authoritarian communist views as the rest. Recently, there were two posts on [email protected] [/c/[email protected]] about Signal, but then in both cases, admin davel (who is known on MoG for seeing [https://lemmy.zip/post/46637982] CIA’s hand in running Ukraine, among other things [https://lemmy.zip/search?q=davel&communityId=14251]) and Dessalines linked (1 [https://lemmy.zip/post/61083394/25384559], 2 [https://lemmy.zip/post/61109551/25386359], 3 [https://lemmy.zip/post/61109551/25391070]) the same article by Dessalines, which not only argues Signal could be a CIA honeypot (as if it matters when proper e2ee is used), but also manages to shoehorn China even into that, claiming its government “prefers autonomy”. This sort of portrayal of totalitarianism as sovereignty is the reason I unsubscribed from the community. As it has been said by others, ML is not a neutral instance but a means of pushing authoritarian views onto unsuspecting users. Edit: Made the post title clearer.

Noooo “calling it authoritarian is meaningless”!!!

Stop “phrasemongering”, it’s “not fascism” when China pulls its shit! China also not guilty of Uyghur genocide, that’s western propaganda you racist!

Smh. Tankie propaganda was making me mad, I’m actually glad I got banned off their subs for adamantly refusing to accept their lines of reasoning for their blatant, apologetic, wholly uncritical acceptance of china.

What portion of the tankie userbase do we think are Chinese intelligence assets? Or at best, shills?

The down voting shaping on this thread I think supports this notion. My experience has always been that tankies, regardless of community, are exceedingly rare in the wild of a western nation. With leftist views usually comes compassion, and that prevents the development of authoritarian views.

There is something wrong with the proportions on Lemmy.

down vote shaping

Downvotes are publicly available. If you can identify unlabeled downvote bots, admins will probably ban them.

There’s been an uptick of downvotes and new users leaving critical comments since the Hexbear thread linking this one. Though Hexbear is defederated from .world, I’m pretty sure that if you examine the downvotes, you’re going to find barely active alt accounts of users from Hexbear. There’s one who literally quoted a point from that thread.