Geez this beat-up is getting tiring. I wrote up a complaint in another thread but I think the OP realised how terrible it was because it was deleted by the time I hit submit. That particular post was utter trash, not even attempting to maintain a reasonable tone or look at the situation dispassionately, despite being a full article (and not a short toot, where throwaway poorly-thought-out thoughts might be more justified). Its lede literally read:

Dylan, useful idiot with commit access, pushed age verification PRs to systemd, Ubuntu & Arch, got 2 Microslop employees to merge it, called it ‘hilariously pointless’ in the PR itself, then watched Lennart personally block the revert. Unpaid compliance simp.

And frankly, the author of that sort of hit piece should be ashamed of himself. Far, far more than Dylan should.

It’s such a dumb thing to whinge about. Age verification is not a bad thing! What’s bad is age verification that is implemented in a way that either requires, or significantly increases the chances of people’s privacy being violated. Requiring people to upload photo ID directly to sites, or to third-party “trusted age verification partners”. Or trusting bullshit AI face-detection age verification.

Age verification that’s implemented by asking parents to…y’know, actually *parent*, and helping them to do that by giving them tools like OS-level parental controls, enforced through operating system and browser APIs that we mandate apps and websites use, *is the way to go*. The OS should expose to apps, and browsers expose to websites, only the simple answer to the question: “is the current user of a legal age to access this content?” as a boolean value, based on information stored in the OS by parents setting it. No fancy technology. No privacy invasion. Just simply giving parents the tools to help them do their job.

There are more complicated technical solutions that could be used. Things involving repeated hashes or blind digital signatures. But these are only appropriate if we pre-suppose that the government needs to strictly enforce it by requiring IDs or other sensitive information be used to age verify. And these solutions help minimise the risk by eliminating the connection between the age verification and which sites are being accessed (so the verifier can’t see what sites the verifyee is viewing, and the sites can’t see who the person being verified was, only that they were verified). And you don’t need to go even that far. Because the best solution is right down on the user’s device, with a simple setting that parents can set.

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I’m having a really hard time determining if youre incredibly naive, incredibly ignorant, or both.

What’s getting tiring is decades of this shit being pushed under the guise of “protecting children” when it doesnt remotely do anything to protect children.

This is not a new thing. This is a new approach to the same bullshit that does absolutely nothing to protect children, instead creating opportunities for exploitation while absolving corporations of their responsibilities.

Defending this is fucking stupid.

Simply stating it without adding anything to the conversation doesn’t make it so. Your comment is a complete waste of my time, your own time, and everyone unfortunate enough to read it.

If you’re going to leave a comment, say something of value in it. You can disagree, but do it while actually saying something more than “no you’re wrong”.

You should take your own advice. You comments willfully ignore the point against forcing age verification at the OS level.
Thanks for confirming I should just not bother with you.