SandraMar 20

In the 1970s oil crisis, governments (at least here in Sweden) responded by rationing the limited supply. 👍🏻

In the 2020s instead the governments instead are subsidizing the oil by lowering taxes (at least UK but here in Sweden the opposition is already arguing for it). Can I get off mad world, please? As oil and gas are burning and oil reserves are being opened and nothing is sequestered and the climate has a fever, this is not the response I want.

Show threadtaymaz Mar 21
@Sandra it’s cumbersome but oil is still vital for many petrochemical products. The lack of oil alternatives is still a big problem for other industries. Regardless of the transportsector.
Show threadSandraMar 21
@taymaz

That was true in the seventies too. This dependence was something the oil industry and their bought politicians lobbied for, in the face of (by now) many decades of actively rejecting alternatives. Here in Sweden our current government deliberately and actively through legislation increased the propertion of fossil oil in fuels. That is not okay.

Many oil products like plastics are also an environmental nightmare in many ways, including and beyond climate change. Plastic doesn't gracefully go away after its useful life and throughout that useful life it continuously sheds pollutants. That is not okay.
Show threadtaymaz Mar 21
@Sandra It’s a bit more complicated than that. The products and derivates of oil like I mentioned is a huge deal not only for plastic, and regardless of their environmental impact (degrading and pollution issue) there are no viable subtitutes for large scale.
Not only that, petrochemical products are also used in pharmaceutical production - again with lack of substitution at this point.
We’re stuck with oil for the foreseeable future unless we dismantle our entire way of life
Show threadSandraMar 21

@taymaz

We’re stuck with oil for the foreseeable future unless we dismantle our entire way of life

That is urgently needed and the later we start the more brutal it’s gonna be and we’re already starting way too late.

Show threadtaymaz Mar 21

@Sandra It’s an unholy marriage until a more viable option is available. And fortunately there are a lot of companies that are working in finding solutions but Until then, its unreasonable to tank the economy and everyday peoples ability to function by increasing prices for fuel specifically.

By breaking the economy domestically by making it more expensive for oil products without any viable alternative will only further delay the ability for industries to innovate solutions.

Show threadtaymaz Mar 21

@Sandra that’s precisely why most people who propagate for clean energy and EVs like Musk etc never argue that fossile fuels should be severely taxed but rather the alternative needs to be more affordable and sustainable.

Besides, the chain of production for EVs and battery production produces immense carbon footprints that only even out vs ICE after 250k km of ownership. The current rate of consumption just creates more e-waste that is just as toxic.

Show threadtaymaz 
@Sandra I really don’t want to be misunderstood so let me clarify, I completely agree that we need to find sustainable ways of life and alternatives to environmental harmful practices. But we have to be clear sighted about how to get there.
Mar 21 at 9:12pmWeb