Trump threatens to deploy ICE agents to airports Monday if funding deal isn’t reached

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Trump threatens to deploy ICE agents to airports Monday if funding deal isn’t reached - Lemmy.World

Donald Trump said Saturday he will deploy Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents to US airports on Monday if an agreement isn’t reached to fund the Department of Homeland Security amid a partial government shutdown. It is unclear what function the ICE agents would perform since they’re not trained in airport security screening. TSA screeners have a several months-long training period before they’re on the job, though airline employees and private security companies have partnered on line controlling and guarding exit doors. The agents could potentially help in more limited roles — like managing lines, directing passengers or helping move people through the checkpoint process — to free up trained TSA officers for critical security functions.

What a fucking idiot. I’m sure he doesn’t realize that the federal government doesn’t own or operate civilian transport hubs. More than half the states who fucking hate ICE will not allow this.

Then he’s going to try and pull the lever of removing TSA agents from airports, but guess what? PEOPLE WOULD LOVE THAT! The TSA bullshit airport has only been a thing since 2002. So many people don’t remember being able to just get in a flight, or walk/depart/meet people at the gate when they depart/arrive.

If anything bad happens as a circumstance of him doing that, then that’s on him and all the dipshits who enable this fucker.

Then he’s going to try and pull the lever of removing TSA agents from airports

Yes please and thank you!

Don’t threaten me with a good time

Any airport that in the US is effectively federal property because the TSA does security in all airports, the FAA controls most surface movement and all takeoffs and landings, and in International airports, the CBP controls the port of entry.

And I hate to break it to you but removing the TSA doesn’t mean we revert back to pre 9/11 days. Security at airports is still governed by the Aircraft Operator Standard Security Program which defines the screening requirements, but not necessarily who must complete them.

Trump will be under a lot of pressure from capital not to do this, I suspect, because it would absolutely crater tourism.

Assuming he TACOs, and dems hold strong (sob), I would be looking for one of two scenarios.

Most likely, airports revert to post 9/11-pre TSA setup. Same basic experience, and probably even the same people, but a different uniform. Remember Huntleigh? Argenbright? You may still see these logos on the arms of wheelchair pushers or janitorial staff, but for a long, long time, they operated the checkpoints too. Between maybe the late 80s and up until 9/11, there was still screening but it was much more lax. Basic screening was likely introduced after Pan Am flight 103, and while there were metal detectors and x-rays, anyone could go through, which is what made all the sappy last minute airport reunion scenes possible.

After 9/11, the AOSSP was updated again with much more stringent security requirements, but at first the screening was still done by those vendors - provided at least one specially trained airline representative Ground Security Coordinator was present at the checkpoint. I was a GSC once upon a time, and I don’t think the TSA took over all of the checkpoints until maybe 2005. Though I’m not still current on the AOSSP, I’m fairly certain all of the policy that would enable a complete reversion back to this model is still in place. Airlines at each airport would share the cost of the contract.

Back then, a bunch of Huntleigh Employees suddenly became TSA employees. We might see a bunch of TSA employees become Huntleigh employees.

Or potentially, Trump will split the difference and just make the TSA screeners ICE employees. That’s probably a LITTLE less likely to spook travelers, so it could be a face saving compromise, but more likely he will do something like the first option and spin it as cutting government bloat and a partnership with job creating business leaders.

Pan Am Flight 103 - Wikipedia

Ooh…. ICE at the airport? Sounds like a good opportunity to let them know our opinion of them.
Oh goodie, making tourism and its resulting spending even LESS likely! #winning!!!!!!!!!

This is TERRIBLE! Transportation CEOS gave Trump MILLIONS and he’s RUINING their Businesses!

-Republicans but UNIRONICALLY!

The Art of How to Fuck Up Biden’s Economy, Which Was the Envy of the World

– John Barron

This is not the threat this idiot may think it is.
Isn’t he basically admitting that ICE is his private paramilitary organization?
We passed that point about a year ago afair…
Honestly? If it means more ICE off the streets harassing decent people and stuck doing boring-ass airport security, then let’s go. There are only so many ICE guys to go around. It’s not the infinite respawn that he seems to think it is.

I think you’ve forgotten how xenophobic these assholes are.

They’re gonna be stopping every second person at the scanners pulling their guns and hurling them off to some concentration camp

Well, maybe people would actually realise how much the US has turned into a fascist nation and stop going there. And maybe the Americans who are wealthy enough to travel overseas can no longer overlook how bad their country had become if they have to deal with ICE, instead.
I think you’ve forgotten people in pedokistan are absolutely fine as long as they don’t “see” it.
Yeah… I laughed when I saw this. Like, don’t threaten us with a good time.
At least they gave some potential thing that they could do, because frankly I was having trouble coming up with what.

ok, so now you go through the metal detector at gun point? I guess that will make me look harder for change in my pockets before.

I don’t think this will significantly speed up anything. Surely they need a clean up delay each time they waste a passenger.

Just disband TSA and DHS and go back to airports doing their own security. TSA has never been anything but security theater pork barrel politics.
Great, do it! That should go over really really well. 🤣 And keep them from going out and doing their gestapo duties while they’re at it.

If TSA can’t work because there’s no funding, how the fuck would using ICE instead be any different?

It is fucked up and blatantly illegal that, despite the fact that the entire point of this exercise is to starve ICE of cash, they’re somehow still getting paid.

ICE got paid a 4 year budget upfront, which they are allowed to roll over. So they’re not getting paid, they just have a reserve several times the size of their annual budget.

Yep, and it’s bullshit.

(In fact, I’d argue that since ICE is a de-facto army, it’s literally unconstitutional).

Don’t fucking go to fascist America.

Holy fucking shit how stupid are non-Americans to keep doing this?

I hate when the media sane-washes the random tweets of this dumb ass mother fucker. This article goes to great length to talk about what roles ICE could play with limited training, when Trump had 100% not put an ounce of thought into this. They should just say “Trump proposes putting ICE into the airports, which makes no fucking sense.” But instead they try to invent ways that maybe it could possibly work?
CNN is owned by right wing corpos now. It’s compromised and has been for a while.
Why, it makes. Bag everyone going in and out of the country as illegals. Grind US’s face into the ground, manufacture a crisis to make politicians cave in and fund DHS. Then, 50/50, take agents back or continue to deploy them into airports because no one can prevent it. Does it sound unlikely in March, 2026?
Well, if he wants to use the egregious amount of money granted to ICE last year, to fulfill the role of TSA, so be it.
Just warming us up with an election pre-game
25th… amendment.