Rose1d ago

Unsubscribed from [email protected]

https://lemmy.zip/post/61132044

Unsubscribed from [email protected] - Lemmy.zip

Soon after I joined Lemmy a few years ago, I searched for communities based on my interests and subscribed to the ones with the highest numbers of users to ensure they are active. Sometimes I joined multiple, but then saw that some people post the same thing to more than one, cluttering my feed, so I left the smaller ones. It’s only after my community ban from [email protected] [/c/[email protected]] for disagreeing about Ukraine [https://lemmy.zip/post/39086280] that I was told about MeanwhileOnGrad, learning exactly what “the tankie triad” means and why big Lemmy instances have defederated from those. Lemmy.ml [http://Lemmy.ml], where the ML probably stands for Marxist-Leninist, seems to have been defederated by fewer, possibly because it’s run by the creator of Lemmy, Dessalines. Nevertheless, there is evidence [https://lemmy.zip/search?q=dessalines&communityId=14251] of Dessalines holding the same authoritarian communist views as the rest. Recently, there were two posts on [email protected] [/c/[email protected]] about Signal, but then in both cases, admin davel (who is known on MoG for seeing [https://lemmy.zip/post/46637982] CIA’s hand in running Ukraine, among other things [https://lemmy.zip/search?q=davel&communityId=14251]) and Dessalines linked (1 [https://lemmy.zip/post/61083394/25384559], 2 [https://lemmy.zip/post/61109551/25386359], 3 [https://lemmy.zip/post/61109551/25391070]) the same article by Dessalines, which not only argues Signal could be a CIA honeypot (as if it matters when proper e2ee is used), but also manages to shoehorn China even into that, claiming its government “prefers autonomy”. This sort of portrayal of totalitarianism as sovereignty is the reason I unsubscribed from the community. As it has been said by others, ML is not a neutral instance but a means of pushing authoritarian views onto unsuspecting users.

Show threadTar_Alcaran1d ago
Your life on the fediverse improves significantly if you just block the entire lemmy.ml and hexbear.net instances.
Show threadRose1d ago
Getting closer and closer to that! The reason I made this post to begin with is to do a PSA, because it took me months of being subscribed to games on Hexbear to notice it’s not a leftist community as it presents itself, but authoritarian communist. So I can’t be certain all of their users are in the know, but is it worth keeping the instances unblocked if the bad outweighs the possibility of good?
Show threadAlcoholicorn1d ago

it’s not a leftist community

Someone should tell their anarchists. If you only want to interact with pro-imperialism leftists, that’s ok.

Show threadXLE1d ago
Are you aware Russia and China are imperialist too
Show threadAlcoholicorn1d ago

Russia maybe, but imperialism doesn’t just mean “big country does stuff” or what you’re referring to with China; big country refuses to balkanize against the wishes of it’s own population. We know what imperialism looks like in the neocolonial era, it’s comprador governments kept in place with military aid, selling the people’s labor and resources for pennies to their benefactors.

Compare the development of countries that work with China to mutually develop, resulting in production of higher-value products, verses say French Africa exporting raw gold and coco to factories owned by France for over a century, with as much poverty today as a century ago, or South America’s century of “developing” without ever approaching the living standards the first world enjoys off their labor.

Show threadXLE1d ago

Russia definitely.

China definitely.

Your comment history seems to be full of trolling anarchist communities, so it seems you misrepresented yourself as the reasonable voice of leftism. And isn’t that what the whole post here is about.

Chinese imperialism - Wikipedia

Show threadAlcoholicorn1d ago

Chinese imperialism is the expansion of political, economic, cultural, media, and military power

Yeah no if you’re using such a silly definition, Cuba is Imperialist.

trolling anarchist communities

Mocking liberals and “anarchists” whose foreign policy aligns perfectly with their government isn’t trolling.

Show threadXLE

I like how I linked to a specific part of that article that bypasses the typical rebuttals from trolls, so you had to pretend I hadn’t.

And yes you are gatekeeping a community you clearly don’t belong to. Quite poorly at that.

Mar 21 at 7:00pmWeb
Show threadTar_Alcaran1d ago

I like how I linked to a specific part of that article that bypasses the typical rebuttals from trolls, so you had to pretend I hadn’t.

I’m pretty sure they didn’t even click the link

Show threadcecinestpasunbot1d ago
You linked to a section of a Wikipedia article which cites the opinion of the Japanese Communist Party where they don’t call China imperialist. In the same document that’s cited they call the US imperialist repeatedly. Why do you expect anyone to take you seriously when the evidence you’re using to support your argument is so incredibly weak?
Show threadXLE23h ago
Pretty dishonest of you to misrepresent what they actually do say.
Show threadcecinestpasunbot20h ago
Stop projecting. The JCP did not call China imperialist. They did call the US imperialist. Feel free to prove me wrong but we both know you can’t.
Show threadXLE14h ago

They used synonyms, troll.

the Japanese Communist Party (JCP) criticized the CCP for engaging in “great-power chauvinism and hegemonism”

Show threadcecinestpasunbot14h ago
They repeatedly call the US imperialist but they did not use that word to describe China. It should be obvious then that if they intended to call China imperialist they would have. Unfortunately for you, insults aren’t a substitute for poor reading comprehension.