@bazkie what absolutely sucks is - I think this all could be struck down by the supreme court, as a first amendment, coerced speech issue.

But I don't think anybody has standing to bring up a case until their rights are infringed - as in issued fines or arrested for not complying.

That all gets very expensive, so if your options are drain your life savings fighting a case versus complying... That's a tough spot.

It speaks to how broken our legal system is and how much it favors the wealthy

@bazkie

Hoping a bigger company like canonical or red hat will choose to not comply since they'll have the resources to deal with the legal system.

That relies on it being a good business decision and I'm not sure if it is or not. I could see the argument for "this opens us up to liability we don't want" and it being a good strategy to fight it. Could see the opposite.

If any distros start a fundraising campaign to take this to court I'll absolutely donate.

@jprjr yeah I don't know, I'm actually expecting the corporate distros to fall in line, because corporations have no morals, only a bottom line.

I'm not sure, in the case of open source "hobbyist" distros, who would be liable. I feel people comply too easily, even if there is a risk - after all, if we all comply all the time we end up in some surveillance state, that's not good either. so we need to show some spine there

@bazkie agree. It's all very murky and hobbyists aren't lawyers (and also - neither am I, at all).

The laws are pretty poorly-written and assume operating systems are made by corporations.

I think the way this gets struc kdown is to not comply at all. Don't geoblock, don't throw up warnings, don't make users vouch they're not in a state with these laws. Do absolutely nothing different.

Then get sued/fined/arrested/whatever, go to court.

Sadly this will cost a lot of money.