@atsuzaki @koronkebitch I would absolutely not be in PL, in Utah CS, in Mastodon, or anywhere at all except for the people
@atsuzaki @koronkebitch just last week I was out in the desert with a good friend who started grad school with me in summer 1995. if it wasn't for that crowd -- who I still love -- I'd probably have gone off and done some dumb shit like getting rich during the dotcom boom. and I would probably be rich and miserable now.
@regehr @atsuzaki @koronkebitch hope you're not miserable!
@va2lam @atsuzaki @koronkebitch 100% not miserable, except when I think about my country
@va2lam @atsuzaki @koronkebitch it is what it is. I don't suppose most people in the history of the world have been able to be proud of their country.

@regehr @atsuzaki @koronkebitch I am under no illusions that Canada or NZ are perfect countries, but many citizens are well treated by these countries, and they have net positive effects on the world scale. Partly because they are not the hegemon, they don't have to do some of the dirty work.

But an important question is how the most vulnerable are treated, and both Canada and NZ have historically failed some populations quite drastically.