Devin Prater :blind:Mar 19

Okay so there’s been a tad bit of hyping up the Perspective Intelligence app for iOS. It’s accessible, made by a blind person, but don’t rely on it for anything. Here’s the output of asking it how to open a list of links with the JAWS screen reader:

To obtain a list of links from a webpage using the JAWS screen reader, you can follow these steps:

1. **Enter the Page**: Navigate to the webpage you want to check.

2. **Use the "Show Links" Option**:
- JAWS typically has an option to "Show Links" or "Show Links and Form Fields."
- Look for a button or a menu item labeled "Show Links" or "Show Links and Form Fields."
- Click on this option to display the list of links.

3. **Use the "Get Links" Command**:
- If you prefer using JAWS commands, you can use the "Get Links" command.
- On Windows, press `Ctrl + Shift + J`.
- On macOS, press `Cmd + Shift + J`.
- JAWS will then display a list of all the links on the page.

4. **Navigate the List**:
- JAWS will read the URL of each link to you.
- You can click on a link to follow it directly in the browser.

5. **Use the "Get Page Information" Command**:
- Another command you can use is "Get Page Information."
- On Windows, press `Ctrl + Shift + I`.
- On macOS, press `Cmd + Shift + I`.
- JAWS will provide information about the page, including links.

By using these methods, you can easily locate and navigate through the links on a webpage using JAWS.

Any JAWS user knows you hit Insert + F7. Any JAWS user knows there’s no JAWS for Mac. Local AI ain’t gonna be very helpful for anything important.

#AI

Show threadJames DeanMar 19
@pixelate Yes, this uses local models. Which is great for sensative app interactions which is apparently what it's good at. Asking it these kinds of questions is never going to work as well because it really needs access to the cloud to even have a high hope of giving the correct answer.
Show threadDevin Prater :blind:Mar 20
@GamingWithEars Nah, they can use RAG or tool calls to web search.
Show threadJames Dean
@pixelate Edit: Just read Michael's posts in response to your posts, so I understand that he is thinking about doing this for free users and all-access already does, which is good, so he's willing to budge on that a bit it seems. Right, but isn't that the entire point, that it doesn't go outside of your device? If you want something to answer questions like that, then use one of the Cloud models. Doesn't this fall under use the right tool for the job? I'm genuinely trying to understand. I'm still trying to figure this stuff out like we all are.
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Show threadDevin Prater :blind:Mar 20
@GamingWithEars A blind person is going to try to use this for tech support. In fact I asked the model what it could do, and tech support was one of the things. And we all know how people will believe AI. But they can't just say their product sucks and people should use a cloud model.
Show threadJoshMar 20
@pixelate @GamingWithEars Heh. I've had too many failures with AI to just simply believe it at face value.
Show threadJames DeanMar 20
@Orinks @pixelate Yes as have I but Devin isn't wrong, some people do trust without verifying its output.
Show threadJames DeanMar 20
@pixelate But saying it sucks because it won't do something you think it should even though it's not specifically designed to do that isn't fare to Michael and Taylor.
Show threadDevin Prater :blind:Mar 20
@GamingWithEars It's not just me who will think it should answer a rather simple blindness question. Especially since it was written by a blind and low vision team of developers.