Selfishly, I will not be affected by this, because I use a version of Android without Google - GrapheneOS.

But this will be of little solace for the myriad users stuck with Google-flavoured Android, who did not agree to this ludicrous dance simply to be able to install software on their own phone.

#KeepAndroidOpen

@neil does graphineos manage to make stuff work that requires device attestation? E.g. banking apps, google wallet, etc?

@steve I have not used Google Wallet, so I do not know.

Some banking apps work, some do not.

@neil well, at the moment I can't use any of that stuff because my phone is rooted and I gave up jumping through hoops every time Google changed attestation.

@steve

That's how I view it too - I prefer to use GrapheneOS over banks who'd prefer to lock me out.

Fortunately, I can access all of my accounts through their bank's website, which suits me fine.

I've moved in many cases away from apps entirely, to websites, as that helps as part of me exploring non-Android Linux-based phones.

Contactless Payments with GrapheneOS

Google's monopolistic stranglehold on Android results in poor experience for power-users, and artificially restricts choice for those who have older phones. For example, Google Wallet is the de facto way to use NFC payments on Android. There's one problem though - it only works with Google's Android. If you have the temerity to install a 3rd party Android OS - like the hyper-secure GrapheneOS - โ€ฆ

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